Bravo Mr. Dyson

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    Please read this fantastic article on one of the brightest minds of the 20th and 21st centuries.

    In the world of academics - Dyson is among the giants - and once loved among the liberals for his long standing crusade against nuclear weapons. (I heard him speak on this subject in the early 90's)

    Now he is being villified by the global warming junta - an attack that is far beneath the quiet dignity and enormous intelligence of this remarkable man.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/magazine/29Dyson-t.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all
     
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    Wow. Thanks for posting this.

    “His mind is still so open and flexible...”
     
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    Yes, Freeman Dyson is a legend. And wrong on this issue. The oceans are acidifying. The Ice Caps are melting. We will see a significant drop in food production this year because of droughts, in precisely the areas that the climatologists were worried about.

    I wish Dyson were correct, but he is not. The real time events are proving that the scientists are correct, we have a real problem, one that is going to get far worse.
     
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    I do believe Mr. Dyson knows that water vapor is far and away the most significant of greenhouse gases, unlike some, who stated CO2 as being so.

    Just saying...
     
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    Keep on just saying. Anyone that understands the relationship between the GHGs and water vapor understands that you are a fool.
     
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    When I read this article it was titled "Dyson, pre-eminent physicist, challenges consensus on climate change" in the March 27, 2009 issue of the International Herald Tribune.

    It is now titled "The Civil Heretic" at The New York Times website.


    These excerpts are not quoted in the order they appear in the article for the purpose of continuity:







    There are another two articles at the Washington Post

    Freeman Dyson, Global Warming Heretic

    Freeman Dyson, Global Warming Heretic

    And NY Times Climate Story Stirs Controversy

    NY Times Climate Story Stirs Controversy


    NOTE - The above excerpts, while lengthy, constitute less than 8% of the article cited.
     
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    The story has certainly created a bit of a stir.

    I am uncertain how to take the altered title of "Civil Heretic" - but perhaps it is giving a nod to the notion that global warming has become a concept based so much on faith, and its proponents are in fact fanatical zealots who will protect their doctrine at all costs?

    Regardless, it was a very interesting read on an incredibly interesting and astute scientific mind - among the greatest minds of the last century.
     
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    Missouri, talk to the Inuit about global warming. You will find that they are not at all thrilled by it. Even to the point of having the sun appear earlier in the spring than it used to.
     
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    Now THAT one you're going to have to explain to me. Surely you're not saying that what human kind is doing in terms of introducing gasses can influence when the sun "appears" in the spring at northern latitudes.
     
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