Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

[whitehall]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

 

[Lakhota]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

 

[Lakhota]

Forced to put its money where its mouth is, the Catholic Church backs off on the idea that the fetus is a person.

A Fetus Is Not a Person if it Costs us Money, Says Catholic Church | Alternet

 

[Avatar4321]

I'll need to see more evidence before I believe the claim that the proposed New Mexico legislation would punish a rape victim for getting an abortion of her own volition.

This is supposed to criminalize the actions of abusers who would have their victim get an abortion so that no one would know what they did. And criminalize the actions of people who help the abuser hide the evidence.

forcing a woman to stay pregnant after she was impregnated is punishing her. why do republicans keep trying to find ways to victimize the victim? it's so fucking repugnant.

Why do you think having a child makes a person a victim?

 

[whitehall]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

 

[CaféAuLait]

By Laura Bassett

A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.

Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.

“The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” he said. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“

More: New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

HOUSE BILL 206
51ST LEGISLATURE - STATE OF NEW MEXICO - FIRST SESSION, 2013
INTRODUCED BY
Cathrynn N. Brown

Your linked article clearly states her intent with this bill:

UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html


AND she stated she would make it clear what she meant far before this was posted and everyone went haywire:

On Thursday, Brown issued a statement that she said clarifies the intent behind her bill. In it, she said she plans to submit a substitute draft soon. Her statement reads:

"It has been speculated that this legislation is intended to criminalize rape victims. This is a misinterpretation of the intent of the legislation.

'House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,' said Rep. Brown. 'Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist—not the victim—would be charged with tampering of evidence. I am submitting a substitute draft to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.'"

UPDATE: Carlsbad legislator says she will file substitute bill for one criminalizing abortion in rape cases | KOB.com

 

[Avatar4321]

By Laura Bassett

A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.

Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.

“The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” he said. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“

More: New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

HOUSE BILL 206
51ST LEGISLATURE - STATE OF NEW MEXICO - FIRST SESSION, 2013
INTRODUCED BY
Cathrynn N. Brown

Your linked article clearly states her intent with this bill:

UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.

New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'


AND she stated she would make it clear what she meant far before this was posted and everyone went haywire:

On Thursday, Brown issued a statement that she said clarifies the intent behind her bill. In it, she said she plans to submit a substitute draft soon. Her statement reads:

"It has been speculated that this legislation is intended to criminalize rape victims. This is a misinterpretation of the intent of the legislation.

'House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,' said Rep. Brown. 'Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist—not the victim—would be charged with tampering of evidence. I am submitting a substitute draft to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.'"

UPDATE: Carlsbad legislator says she will file substitute bill for one criminalizing abortion in rape cases | KOB.com

Now how did I know the OP was completely misrepresenting what the bill does?

 

[Lakhota]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

What difference does that make? I saw it on several websites today. Try Googling the following:

new mexico bill would imprison rape victims

 

[Lakhota]

Hate Crimes: A Rape Every Minute, a Thousand Corpses Every Year | Alternet

 

[CaféAuLait]

More: New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

HOUSE BILL 206
51ST LEGISLATURE - STATE OF NEW MEXICO - FIRST SESSION, 2013
INTRODUCED BY
Cathrynn N. Brown

Your linked article clearly states her intent with this bill:




New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'


AND she stated she would make it clear what she meant far before this was posted and everyone went haywire:

On Thursday, Brown issued a statement that she said clarifies the intent behind her bill. In it, she said she plans to submit a substitute draft soon. Her statement reads:

"It has been speculated that this legislation is intended to criminalize rape victims. This is a misinterpretation of the intent of the legislation.

'House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,' said Rep. Brown. 'Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist—not the victim—would be charged with tampering of evidence. I am submitting a substitute draft to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.'"

UPDATE: Carlsbad legislator says she will file substitute bill for one criminalizing abortion in rape cases | KOB.com

Now how did I know the OP was completely misrepresenting what the bill does?

I guess it was too hard to read to the bottom of the article, eh?

 

[Avatar4321]

What does Soros have to do with it?

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

What difference does that make? I saw it on several websites today. Try Googling the following:

new mexico bill would imprison rape victims

Oh is that why you repeated the claim without verifying it?

 

[CaféAuLait]

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

What difference does that make? I saw it on several websites today. Try Googling the following:

new mexico bill would imprison rape victims

Oh is that why you repeated the claim without verifying it?

Inciting outrage ( which turns out to be BS) is much better.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

Nothing.

It’s an attempt to deflect.

 

[Lakhota]

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

What difference does that make? I saw it on several websites today. Try Googling the following:

new mexico bill would imprison rape victims

Oh is that why you repeated the claim without verifying it?

It has been verified - as stated in the OP:

HOUSE BILL 206
51ST LEGISLATURE - STATE OF NEW MEXICO - FIRST SESSION, 2013
INTRODUCED BY
Cathrynn N. Brown

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

How did you find out about an obscure state bill in New Mexico?

What difference does it make.

It’s yet more evidence of the right’s desire to undermine privacy rights.

 

[sfcalifornia]

On Thursday, Brown issued a statement that she said clarifies the intent behind her bill. In it, she said she plans to submit a substitute draft soon. Her statement reads:

"It has been speculated that this legislation is intended to criminalize rape victims. This is a misinterpretation of the intent of the legislation.

'House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,' said Rep. Brown. 'Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist—not the victim—would be charged with tampering of evidence. I am submitting a substitute draft to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.'"

Yeah, she certainly needs to do so. The original draft doesn't discern between rapist or victim and has bullshit written all over it.

 

[CaféAuLait]

On Thursday, Brown issued a statement that she said clarifies the intent behind her bill. In it, she said she plans to submit a substitute draft soon. Her statement reads:

"It has been speculated that this legislation is intended to criminalize rape victims. This is a misinterpretation of the intent of the legislation.

'House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,' said Rep. Brown. 'Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist—not the victim—would be charged with tampering of evidence. I am submitting a substitute draft to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.'"

Yeah, she certainly needs to do so. The original draft doesn't discern between rapist or victim and has bullshit written all over it.

She may need to but my point was in the very article which Lakatha got upset there was the update and her explanation. In capital letters even, and time stamped well before this thread. So there was no need for the outrage as the Rep who drafted the bill clearly stated her intent.

 

[Lakhota]

UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.

“New Mexico needs to strengthen its laws to deter sex offenders,” said Brown. “By adding this law in New Mexico, we can help to protect women across our state.”

From the OP link. Reading the bill and her so-called update make her intent even more confusing...

 

[Lakhota]

Well, this makes more sense...

UPDATE: Carlsbad legislator says she will file substitute bill for one criminalizing abortion in rape cases | KOB.com

 

[Avatar4321]

It's pretty strange especially sponsored by a woman but it's only a state bill in New Mexico. The Soros tax exempt propaganda network never sleeps in it's effort to research every bill in every state and spin it to Huffington.

What does Soros have to do with it?

Nothing.

It’s an attempt to deflect.

Except he's financing all the places he looks to for sources on this misleading topic.