Bill Clinton: Hey, let’s have a Ministry of Truth, or something

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    "From such an unimpeachable source, too!"

    Bill Clinton: Hey, let&#8217;s have a Ministry of Truth, or something « Hot Air

    Bill Clinton: Create Internet agency - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    Ed Morrissey nails it as per usual. "We have free speech primarily to hold government accountable, not the Internet." Also as per usual... Bill Clinton has the bass-ackwards view. (and a near fatal case of hypocrisy fever) Hey Billy Jeff! Don't go away mad, just go away.

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    Bill Clinton lied about getting a blowjob because he was afraid his wife would find out.

    That's about the same as nearly every conservative and Republican male in the United States.
     
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    I posted a thread on this a while back..that there should be some sort of non-partisan means of "certifying" news agencies.

    Sort of like a better business bureau or something. And it should be completely voluntary.

    But of course..it's a thorny issue..and rightly so.
     
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    Meaning... we should have a NPRish/PBSish (thus U.S. taxpayer funded) or a United Naitions watchdog (thus U.S. taxpayer funded) "Ministry of Truth" for the Enter-Toobs?

    No thank you.
     
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    This would only play well with half of the nation.

    The other half believes what ever Fox news says, no matter how outrageous, no matter the proof.

    Facts have a liberal bias.
     
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    It’s a stupid idea – which goes without saying. But how does it preempt free speech? It seems the ‘agency’ would disclose factual corrections of misinformation. As long as the misinformation isn’t stifled or otherwise legislated against, there are no First Amendment violations.

    It’s understandable why the right is opposed to this, howrver, misinformation is their stock in trade.
     
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    It's understandable why the Left is not opposed to this, however, they lost Pravda when the USSR crashed and now they are losing dead tree news and control of the media is their stock in trade.

    Sheesh. :eusa_whistle:

    You really think a government (international or otherwise) funded "electronic Pravda" would not be harmful? One can navigate the internet just fine as is: if you have the ability to think for yourself. I bet you can do it just fine. I know I can.
     
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    You don't need a ministry of truth to tell you if something is true or not. You just need a brain.

    If it makes sense that something has happened given everything that you know about it, then you probably know all that happened.

    If it doesn't make sense then you either don't have all the facts or the facts you accept as givens are untrue.

    So, as a for instance, you believe in your heart that Bill Clinton was a bad President. During his terms, we are not at war, you get regular raises, your 401K triples and your life is fulfilling and rewarding. Is it more likely that Clinton was a bad president or that you are relying on "facts" that are not true?

    You may think that The Big 0 is a good president and yet you lost your job, can't find another, ran out of unemployment, your wife divorced you, you lost your house and we are involved in 3 wars. Is it more likely that The Big 0 is a good president or that you are relying on facts that are not true?

    We don't need a ministry of truth. We do need leaders that refrain from pissing on our collective hat and telling us it's raining.
     
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    Which moral standard are you going by to make such a claim?

    If you are holding a standard of Bill Clinton vs. Conservative politicians..he holds up rather well with all but Eisenhower.
     

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