Best argument for the Senate to vote against brand new witnesses...

[2aguy]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Cool...then we should pass a constitutional amendment to either remove the impeachment process entirely, thus clearing the path for future presidents to do whatever they want.....

(In case you didn't know, Trump will not be president forever...)

Or...pass an amendment that says impeachments can only last as long as whoever the person who is most butthurt about it tells you it can last....a day, 30 minutes...who cares....

Funny how all of this bitching about anti-impeachment comes about when a republican is the one getting impeached

 

[Ame®icano]

House should learn that the burden of proof is on them, not on Senate. It's Houses job to investigate, call witnesses, subpoena documents in order to present articles to Senate.

Only witnesses that should be allowed in Senate are those who were already called in House in order to make a case for impeachment, but only if further clarification is needed by the Senate.

If new witnesses are allowed, than I would like to hear from all names ever mentioned in House hearings, because they're all become relevant, not just selected few. Sure, it will take months, but that's what you get when you don't do your job.

Heck, since Senators would be tied to impeachment trial, maybe even Hillary can join the race almost uncontested, and win the primaries.

 

[task0778]

I do not believe the Senate should allow itself to be tied up for however long with new witnesses and documents that should have been included in the House Articles. IMHO, that's all they should consider, whatever the House inquiry uncovered or provided. Nothing else, the House impeached President Trump on that information alone and that is what the Senate should limit their trial on. There's nothing that says the House can't impeach Trump a 2nd time should they find new information or witnesses.

Frankly, this is a bullshit case that never would've seen the light of day in an ordinary court room. IMHO it should be flushed on Friday.

 

[2aguy]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

 

[2aguy]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

They can fight the subpoena.......they can depose them for weeks.......it isn't the Senates job to find witnesses..

 

[Ame®icano]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

They can fight the subpoena.......they can depose them for weeks.......it isn't the Senates job to find witnesses..

Depose them for weeks? What are you talking about?

If they fight the subpoena there is a Supreme Court justice presiding over the senate trial who can make a quick ruling.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

OK, we vote Joe Biden and Schiff as witnesses.

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

they are in court, it’s a trial. There’s a Supreme Court justice presiding over it. How is this going to take weeks?

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

OK, we vote Joe Biden and Schiff as witnesses.

fine do it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

they are in court, it’s a trial. There’s a Supreme Court justice presiding over it. How is this going to take weeks?

Trials take months for big crimes.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

OK, we vote Joe Biden and Schiff as witnesses.

fine do it.

Hilarious.

 

[Slade3200]

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

they are in court, it’s a trial. There’s a Supreme Court justice presiding over it. How is this going to take weeks?

Trials take months for big crimes.

Haha, ok. So what does that have to do with this?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

they are in court, it’s a trial. There’s a Supreme Court justice presiding over it. How is this going to take weeks?

Trials take months for big crimes.

Haha, ok. So what does that have to do with this?

Not the Senates job to do the Houses work.

 

[2aguy]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

They can fight the subpoena.......they can depose them for weeks.......it isn't the Senates job to find witnesses..

Depose them for weeks? What are you talking about?

If they fight the subpoena there is a Supreme Court justice presiding over the senate trial who can make a quick ruling.

Nope......they can take it to the federal courts.......demand a full hearing.....one judge doesn't get to make rulings on executive privilidge....just arguing that would take weeks...

 

[Slade3200]

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

Trump asserts executive privilege. It goes to court. The Court.

they are in court, it’s a trial. There’s a Supreme Court justice presiding over it. How is this going to take weeks?

Trials take months for big crimes.

Haha, ok. So what does that have to do with this?

Not the Senates job to do the Houses work.

haha, ok man. You’re arguments are whittled down to that?! Way to go after the truth!! I shake my head for you.

 

[Shawnee_b]

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

If you think that is bullshit, maybe you need to flashback to the OJ murder trial.

"In Contempt" by Christopher Darden. He was co-prosecutor, excellent read.