Bernie Sanders says he wants to "redistribute wealth". But what does that really mean?

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This is the latest installation of liberals and other socialists saying they want to "redistribute" the wealth in this country. But that implies that the wealth was "distributed" by someone to us all in the first place, and maybe that someone did a bad job and the liberal socialists think they can do it better.

But wealth was never "distributed" to any of us, except maybe by welfare clerks to various indigent persons. But the $100 that's in my wallet now, wasn't distributed to me by anyone. A guy with a car and I made an agreement: I'd tune up his car and fix a few things on it, and he'd pay me $100 to do it. I tuned it up, changed the oil, and replaced two squeaking belts that were badly worn. He's happy, now it starts easier, gets better gas mileage, and doesn't make weird sounds as he drives. He'd much rather have a car that drives like this, than have the $100; and I'd much rather have the $100 and don't mind getting my hands dirty to do something I do well.

Nobody "distributed" anything to either one of us. He and I made a deal, both of us gave the other something of value, both of us are happy with the outcome.

But if our modern liberal socialists had come along just then, they might have taken the guy's $100, and the guy couldn't have gotten me to fix his car. He'd still have a sh*tty-running car that sometimes wouldn't start, I'd be $100 poorer... which means my son would be walking 3 miles to school instead of riding the bike I was about to fix up for him. The liberal socialists want me to think that a better use was made of that $100, than we would have made of it... but when we asked them exactly what the money was used for, they can't answer the question.

People who talk about "redistributing" wealth, are lying. What they are doing, is taking something that was yours, that you earned, and telling you that (a) they know better how to use it than you do, and (b) this somehow makes it OK for them to take it from you, whether you like it or not.

These people aren't "redistributing" anything, because your money wasn't "distributed" to you in the first place. You EARNED it, and you got it because you DESERVED it, not because some uninvolved bureaucrat thought your having it would somehow be a good idea and so gave his blessing on you to receive it.

"Redistributing" is the liberal socialists' way of implying you did NOT earn your money, and so it's not really yours. And pretending that his deciding what to use your money for, is the natural order of things. Not the idea that since you earned it, YOU should decide what to use it for. They're trying to get you away from that idea.

A man who jerks you into an alley, sticks a gun in your face, and demands you give him your money or he'll blast you, is doing the same thing those liberal socialists are. The only difference is, the guy with the gun is being more honest and straightforward about it. He's not pretending you owe him anything, and not trying to get you to believe that what he's doing is "moral", and not trying to fool you into thinking that your keeping your money is eeevil.

Next time one of our liberal socialists tells you he wants to "redistribute" the wealth, remember what he's really saying. And remember that in many ways you'd be better off with somebody sticking a gun in your face.

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Bernie Sanders: A "Little More Complicated" Than Just Taking Wealth From The Rich And Redistributing It

Bernie Sanders: A "Little More Complicated" Than Just Taking Wealth From The Rich And Redistributing It

Oct. 20, 2015

In an interview with Felix Salmon of Fusion, Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders explains how he would redistribute wealth back to the middle class. However, Sanders said it's "a little more complicated" than just taking wealth from the rich and redistributing it to the middle class. Sanders also proposed a wealth tax to help pay for his economic agenda.

"I think what’s happened is that there has been mass redistribution of wealth in this country for the last 30 years," Sanders said. "The problem is it’s gone from the middle class to the top one-tenth of 1%. And I think we have to redistribute it back to working families and the middle class so that they can have a decent standard of living."
 
If y'all can explain why there are mega-corporations that pay little or no taxes, while you the middle class pay your fair share, it will all become clear to you.

If you're too ignorant to understand the premise, just keep making stupid statements.
 
I think maybe you need to reread..or actually read the first time what the OP says.
 
Well if 50 percent pay no income taxes that includes a lot of the middle class. I think all corporations should pay a minimum tax just like all citizens should.

The effort by the govt to do away with cash is another step towards control.

How does Elizabeth warrens you didn't build that fit into your example of fixing the car?

I like,the latest take on Bernie. Free Obamacare, free college, and a pony!
 
An example of the effect of wealth redistribution was the economic progress seen in the decades between the late '40s and early '80s. It was initiated by FDR in the late 1930s by imposing a 94% marginal tax on the the money hoarders and Robber Barons and used that money to create the CCC and WPA "make-work" programs which put millions of unemployed Americans, including my father, to work.

The effect of all these newly employed workers produced an immediate surge in the economy by creating enormous demand for products, which in turn created thousands of new industries. I was just a boy in the late '40s but I watched the emergence and growth of the middle class throughout that era, mainly as the result of the union movement.

Ronald Reagan, The Man From General Electric, imposed Milton Friedman's "trickle-down" scam on us in the early '80s, which turned out to be the siphon-up system which has managed to transfer most of the Nation's wealth to a tiny group of individuals known as the One Percent. Most of that wealth is stashed in tax-evading off-shore accounts.

I believe what Bernie Sanders has in mind is to impose a confiscatory tax on the super-rich, demanding that they bring that hoarded wealth back home where it belongs, and pay the proper taxes on it. And in the manner of FDR's WPA, he will put the bulk of our unemployed to work repairing and rebuilding our long-ignored and decaying infrastructure.
 
"legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind."
-- Thomas Jefferson; from letter to James Madison, (Oct. 28, 1785)
 
If y'all can explain why there are mega-corporations that pay little or no taxes, while you the middle class pay your fair share, it will all become clear to you.

If you're too ignorant to understand the premise, just keep making stupid statements.
The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.
 
Bernie Sanders's economic equality can only be achieved if the tax rate he proposes for his hated billionaires (90%) also applies to the non-billionaires.

For historical example Google "Soviet Union" or "Venezuela" or "Cuba".
 
This is the latest installation of liberals and other socialists saying they want to "redistribute" the wealth in this country. But that implies that the wealth was "distributed" by someone to us all in the first place, and maybe that someone did a bad job and the liberal socialists think they can do it better.

But wealth was never "distributed" to any of us, except maybe by welfare clerks to various indigent persons. But the $100 that's in my wallet now, wasn't distributed to me by anyone. A guy with a car and I made an agreement: I'd tune up his car and fix a few things on it, and he'd pay me $100 to do it. I tuned it up, changed the oil, and replaced two squeaking belts that were badly worn. He's happy, now it starts easier, gets better gas mileage, and doesn't make weird sounds as he drives. He'd much rather have a car that drives like this, than have the $100; and I'd much rather have the $100 and don't mind getting my hands dirty to do something I do well.

Nobody "distributed" anything to either one of us. He and I made a deal, both of us gave the other something of value, both of us are happy with the outcome.

But if our modern liberal socialists had come along just then, they might have taken the guy's $100, and the guy couldn't have gotten me to fix his car. He'd still have a sh*tty-running car that sometimes wouldn't start, I'd be $100 poorer... which means my son would be walking 3 miles to school instead of riding the bike I was about to fix up for him. The liberal socialists want me to think that a better use was made of that $100, than we would have made of it... but when we asked them exactly what the money was used for, they can't answer the question.

People who talk about "redistributing" wealth, are lying. What they are doing, is taking something that was yours, that you earned, and telling you that (a) they know better how to use it than you do, and (b) this somehow makes it OK for them to take it from you, whether you like it or not.

These people aren't "redistributing" anything, because your money wasn't "distributed" to you in the first place. You EARNED it, and you got it because you DESERVED it, not because some uninvolved bureaucrat thought your having it would somehow be a good idea and so gave his blessing on you to receive it.

"Redistributing" is the liberal socialists' way of implying you did NOT earn your money, and so it's not really yours. And pretending that his deciding what to use your money for, is the natural order of things. Not the idea that since you earned it, YOU should decide what to use it for. They're trying to get you away from that idea.

A man who jerks you into an alley, sticks a gun in your face, and demands you give him your money or he'll blast you, is doing the same thing those liberal socialists are. The only difference is, the guy with the gun is being more honest and straightforward about it. He's not pretending you owe him anything, and not trying to get you to believe that what he's doing is "moral", and not trying to fool you into thinking that your keeping your money is eeevil.

Next time one of our liberal socialists tells you he wants to "redistribute" the wealth, remember what he's really saying. And remember that in many ways you'd be better off with somebody sticking a gun in your face.

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Bernie Sanders: A "Little More Complicated" Than Just Taking Wealth From The Rich And Redistributing It

Bernie Sanders: A "Little More Complicated" Than Just Taking Wealth From The Rich And Redistributing It

Oct. 20, 2015

In an interview with Felix Salmon of Fusion, Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders explains how he would redistribute wealth back to the middle class. However, Sanders said it's "a little more complicated" than just taking wealth from the rich and redistributing it to the middle class. Sanders also proposed a wealth tax to help pay for his economic agenda.

"I think what’s happened is that there has been mass redistribution of wealth in this country for the last 30 years," Sanders said. "The problem is it’s gone from the middle class to the top one-tenth of 1%. And I think we have to redistribute it back to working families and the middle class so that they can have a decent standard of living."

This OP clearly demonstrates how truly clueless you are about what the issues are in this country. You don't realize that we live in a country that is geared towards the wealthiest among us. None of us, not a single one of us on this site arguing over the bullshit are a part of the power elite in this country who have paid for and bought their way in to political favor for years now. We sit here arguing about the scraps and you think you know what the hell you're talking about. None of the candidates, except for Sanders, actually practices what they preach and distances themselves from the corrupt system that grows worse with every passing year.
 
You republicans have been redistributing nearly all the wealth to the top 1% for the past 40 years. You don't like it when someone calls you on it!
All tax money just goes into career politicians pockets...
 
He says he wants to "redistribute wealth".

It's remarkable how little difference there is between the ideas and motivations of people who say they want to "redistribute wealth", and those of a mugger who holds you up at gunpoint and steals your wallet.

Both want your money. Both think it's OK for them to take it even if you would rather keep it. Both have no legal foundation for their actions.
 
He says he wants to "redistribute wealth".

It's remarkable how little difference there is between the ideas and motivations of people who say they want to "redistribute wealth", and those of a mugger who holds you up at gunpoint and steals your wallet.

Both want your money. Both think it's OK for them to take it even if you would rather keep it. Both have no legal foundation for their actions.

Are you rich? If not, why is that? Are you lazy?

I'll assume you're not rich, which means what Sanders wants to do will benefit YOU. You've been so conditioned to think that poor people want your money when it's the rich who have been getting richer for years now. Because they work harder? Maybe because they hire lobbyists and make huge political donations to ensure that the laws and tax code are set up in their favor. There is no lobby for the working class. Sanders wants to ensure that all of us have a basic standard of living, thats what he means by democratic socialism.
 

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