I can get 2 bulbs at the dollar store.
Do these last 30xs as long?
How long do I have to use it to make up for the fact that it costs 30 times what I pay for my current bulbs?
Not the point. The price is coming down. They used to be $50.
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I can get 2 bulbs at the dollar store.
Do these last 30xs as long?
How long do I have to use it to make up for the fact that it costs 30 times what I pay for my current bulbs?
He's uh murkin. That math stuff is way too complicated. Me ? I'll take 16.I surely wouldn't pay 15 dollars for a light bulb. You can stick your light bulb straight up your ass before I will.
what if it lasts 10 times as long as a regular bulb and uses less energy.
uh huh.....
Just from its pic.... i can tell it is not going to psychically fit into most of my light fixtures.
In most of my fixtures i use MORE then a 60 watt bulb, or less then a 60 watt bulb, or a 3 way light, or lights that work on a dimmer switch.
Is the color of the light warm...or blue as most LED's are? If it is a blue light i have no use or desire for it.
In this room alone... i have 8 bulbs. $250 a room??
I think its great.........but dont tell me what kind of light bulb I can or cant buy. Thats just stupid silliness.
I love how liberals talk about personal freedoms. They're all for it......as long as you have to do it their way.
How much less? They cost 30 times as much....the squiggly bulbs cost more up front but you save more money in the long run because they last longer and they use less energy.
Depends on how many you use.
Okay, so they use 1/4 the energy and cost 30 times as much...I think the average wattages of the squiggly blubs burn about 75% less energy then the regular bulbs and thats quite a bit less.
And? They still cost 30 times as much as another bulb. You could brag about reducing the deficit by a million dollars, but you'd still owe a few trillion. Tell me when it costs two bucks.I can get 2 bulbs at the dollar store.
Do these last 30xs as long?
How long do I have to use it to make up for the fact that it costs 30 times what I pay for my current bulbs?
Not the point. The price is coming down. They used to be $50.
And in the mean time, you've given me no reason to pay 30 times as much for a damn lightbulb.I have two Streamlight LED flashlights I use at work. Both produce a white light, not blue in any sense. The cheap lights one buys at Harbor Freight are blue, but not the Streamlights.
As the LEDs improve, and are available in more versions, they will also become cheaper. They are the future. Soon the incandescent will be as obsolete as a buggy whip.
I've seen 60 watt CFLs at about buck a piece which is not bad when you consider the live span. LEDs are still too expensive but that will change.uh huh.....
Just from its pic.... i can tell it is not going to psychically fit into most of my light fixtures.
In most of my fixtures i use MORE then a 60 watt bulb, or less then a 60 watt bulb, or a 3 way light, or lights that work on a dimmer switch.
Is the color of the light warm...or blue as most LED's are? If it is a blue light i have no use or desire for it.
In this room alone... i have 8 bulbs. $250 a room??
If you expect people to bay $15 for a bulb, you have to show that each individual bulb puts $14 back in my pocket in something resembling a reasonable time frame in order to justify itself.
I think what a lot of people miss is the savings in electricity costs. You get the light equivalent of a 100 watt bulb for 23 watts with a CFL. With an LED it's even greater. 90% of your electrical cost to light your home with incandescent bulbs goes to produce heat not light. An incandescent bulb is primarily a heater.How much less? They cost 30 times as much....the squiggly bulbs cost more up front but you save more money in the long run because they last longer and they use less energy.
Depends on how many you use. In my case, it was quite a bit less because I did six rooms all at once including two finished rooms in the basement with no windows where we burnt 10 bulbs for about 12 hours each day. It really did make a big difference.
I kept all the old bulbs and have been using them up in places like the outside lights.
The squiggly bulbs also last a lot longer then the regular bulbs much longer.
I think the average wattages of the squiggly blubs burn about 75% less energy then the regular bulbs and thats quite a bit less.
And, since these new LED bulbs run much cooler than the florescent ones, I would expect them to virtually never burn out.
You're one of them retarded people, aint ya?If you expect people to bay $15 for a bulb, you have to show that each individual bulb puts $14 back in my pocket in something resembling a reasonable time frame in order to justify itself.
What's actually expected is that the priice will come down even further. Are you so completely partisan on this issue, that you can't even acknowledge that they used to be $50 and are likely to be lower in the future, just like CFLs?
What's your notion of freedom? Obviously, it doesn't mean actual freedom.I think its great.........but dont tell me what kind of light bulb I can or cant buy. Thats just stupid silliness.
I love how liberals talk about personal freedoms. They're all for it......as long as you have to do it their way.
What makes you think we should be held hostage to your notion of freedom? It's ridiculous to complain about losing an out-dated technology, when we're in the energy situation we're in.
what if it lasts 10 times as long as a regular bulb and uses less energy.
the squiggly bulbs cost more up front but you save more money in the long run because they last longer and they use less energy.
I am doing current product development in LED lighting. So I've been completely privvy to what's there now and what is coming..
1) There's NO DOUBT that LED lighting will put CFLs into the (toxic waste) dustbin of technology.
2) Objections to the "blueness" of the light are REAL.. They actually relate to production of hormones that control "your awakeness". There are already "warm color" LEDs that are similiar in brightness to the "cool white" that are being sold. But they are slightly lower in efficiency (maybe 10%) and more expensive because of brightness.
3) The bigger issue is what's technically called Color Rendering Index (CRI). That's a measure of the "flatness" of the spectral output. The light from an LED might look yellow or white -- but it has significants gaps in color illumination bands. So if you placed a multi-colored pkg under the light, some hues of red (or other colors) could be absent (look grey or black). (also an issue, but not as severe for CFLs). So you want a good CRI rating if the manufacturer provides it.
4) Costs probably WILL come down in the short term -- but don't expect that to continue. Because the efficiency limit is near and getting closer means (maybe) exotic expensive materials and new thermal pkging that is also costly.
5) The savings are real.. But what you can buy at Home Depot is gonna be dictated by dogeatdog marketing specs. So the chances that selling awful blueish light replacements will poison the market for a decade or so. Because the marketing MBA geniuses want to place a premium on energy efficiency rather than a "sensible, pleasing" product..
If you research replacements that have a spectral output from 3000 to 4500 Kelvin and a CRI of greater than 70% -- you will be very pleased. Even if the efficiency is slightly lower and the price is slightly higher. Don't get sucked into bargain basement prices for brand new technology. That never works out --- does it?
Hope Chris reads this before he runs out to buy a truckload of those $15 bulbs. Or maybe typing in a "black light" room would improve his mood...
And it would fit with his beaded curtain and lava lamp motif...