Beck's "crazy" socialist/islamic terrorist cooperation "conspiracy" proven true?

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    YouTube - Socialist Explains How They Worked With Muslim Brotherhood In Revolutions

    The "Conspiracy" :

    1) Groups from the hardcore socialist left, and extreme Islam will work together because of the common enemy of Israel.

    2) Groups from the hardcore socialist left and extreme Islam will work together because of the common enemy of capitalism.

    3) Groups from the hardcore socialist left, and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relative stability, because in the status quo, they are both ostracized from power and the mainstream in most of the world.
     
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    Denials of the verification are being frantically typed as we speak.
     
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    The so called "conspiracies" have always been true. The enemies of freedom are uniting to destroy the west.
     
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    What's the point of the post? Whackos will always join up with other whackos. If the right wants to paint ordinary left-of-center Americans with this brush, they're going to have to accept responsibility for the OKC bombing and the shootings of abortion providers.
     
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    you realize that "point" has been debunked a million+ times right?
     
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    I think it goes beyond a hatred of Israel. If we reduce each of the totalist movements to the basic idea that everyone must march in lockstep, it is obvious how similar they all are.

    Paul Berman did a masterful job of analyzing same, in "Terror and Liberalism," which includes:

    1. The Western urge to rebel, coming out of the French Revolution, mutated quickly into several cults of death and mayhem. No matter the particular movement, there were two key conditions in all: 1. it was based on a submission to a central authority, the total state, and 2. it was based on the idea of one, instead of many.

    a. However, there were also elements of Enlightenment thought that led to the radicalism of the French Revolution, and later inspired Marxism and ideas about materialism, historical determinism and utopianism. There was in some observers a tendency to view religion in exclusively negative terms, and to put all emphasis on ideas about human perfection. Gates of Vienna: Multiculturalism and the Enlightenment

    2. The notion of Islam as totality was Sayyid Qutb’s most important concept, distinguishing Islam from all other worldviews- ‘Tawhid,’ the oneness of God. (Of course, Marxists had the same belief: George Lukacs defined that characteristic of Marxism that distinguished it from bourgeois thinking: ‘the primacy of the category of totality.’)

    3. Truth, according to Qutb, can only be obtained through active struggle. Again, this mirrors the Karl Korsch school of German Marxism, who argued that Marx’s dialectic can only be understood at certain moments in history, those of intense class struggle, during which the truth, i.e., the proletarian revolution becomes clear. Sidney Hook added dose of John Dewey’s Pragmatism, that only via the experiment of revolutionary action, militant effort, is truth revealed. Qutb, two or three decades later, suggested that Koranic truth requires more than religious commitment, it requires revolutionary action on Islam’s behalf. Read between the lines, and you find the link between truth and martyrdom.

    4. The suggestion of martyrdom can be found in one of his screeds against the Jews. “The Koran points to another contemptible characteristic of the Jews: their craven desire to live, no matter at what price and regardless of quality, honour, and dignity.” Imam Zaid Shakir’s Powerful Rebuttal Against Muslim Extremists « Allahcentric
     
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    Well, you haven't said what the "point" is, so I can't really comment. Also, if you're talking million+ debunkings, cites are definitely needed. One shouldn't accept that kind of number on faith alone, right?
     
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    can be found in one of his screeds

    LOL!!! But we're supposed to pay attention to another one of your liberalism=marxism screeds. Physician heal thyself.
     
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    Only in a Fox "News" Watcher's mind.
     
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    What took you so long to show up? The Window Licker Express break down?
     

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