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Professor Sian Griffiths, president of the Faculty of Public Health, which sets and maintains professional standards in public health, said: "A high proportion of preventable illness and deaths in the UK is caused by people living in damp and cold housing.
"If we see much more of the cold weather of recent days, it is likely that as many as 50,000 people will die unnecessarily over this winter. This is a tragedy in terms of human life and also creates a huge - and preventable - strain on the NHS.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures. Although the Government has shown commitment to tacking the problem, it has not given sufficient priority to such an important public health issue and its approach remains far too uncoordinated.
"All of us must be vigilant at the moment to look out for family, friends and neighbours who may be suffering. Often fatal illnesses develop two or three days after a cold snap has finished."
It is estimated that there are 8,000 extra deaths for every one degree Celsius the temperature is below the winter average.
Didya get that? 1degree of GW can SAVE up to 8000 people per year in GB ALONE..
Not exactly, fecalhead. You're just too retarded to understand that one degree of global warming is not the same as a one degree higher average winter temperature in Great Britain. It doesn't work that way. The global death toll from two degrees of global warming is going to be orders of magnitude greater than 8000 people per year, BTW, but of course, I know you're in denial about that too.
And of course, there is the issue that there are a number of countries that get much colder than Great Britain in the winter without any death toll. According to the Doctor being quoted in the article you quoted, the Brits are just kind of incompetent at dealing with really cold weather.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures."
Putting some statement that I didn't make in quotes is extremely retarded (and very desperate) considering that you're using quote boxes that contain what I actually said. I did not say "no relation" between global average temperatures and winter temperatures in Britain. I did say, contrary to your ignorant assumptions, that a one degree rise in global average temperatures does not translate into a one degree rise in the wintertime temperatures in one tiny part of the planet. I'm not surprised that you are too stupid to understand this point.Didya get that? 1degree of GW can SAVE up to 8000 people per year in GB ALONE..
Not exactly, fecalhead. You're just too retarded to understand that one degree of global warming is not the same as a one degree higher average winter temperature in Great Britain. It doesn't work that way. The global death toll from two degrees of global warming is going to be orders of magnitude greater than 8000 people per year, BTW, but of course, I know you're in denial about that too.
And of course, there is the issue that there are a number of countries that get much colder than Great Britain in the winter without any death toll. According to the Doctor being quoted in the article you quoted, the Brits are just kind of incompetent at dealing with really cold weather.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures."
Oh NOOOOOO Princess.. Dont tell me weve wasted TONS OF journal space and years of our lives arguing about a GLOBAL AVERAGE warming that has ""no relation to average winter temperatures in GB""..
This is just an extension of your earlier moronic inability to comprehend what I was saying. Cold weather in Britain in the winter or hot weather in Australia in the summer are both just weather. But strings of record breaking hot years all around the world are, in fact, symptoms of global warming and climate change. 2013 was the hottest year on record in Australia and 2012 was the hottest year on record in America. Even though it was somewhat colder in most parts of America this year, America is only about 2% of the planet's surface area, and since most places around the world were warmer than usual, 2013 wound up as the 4th hottest year on record globally.SO then by extension IT MUST HAVE NO BEARING ON AVERAGE SUMMER TEMPS IN AUSTRALIA where your bats are dying.
Professor Sian Griffiths, president of the Faculty of Public Health, which sets and maintains professional standards in public health, said: "A high proportion of preventable illness and deaths in the UK is caused by people living in damp and cold housing.
"If we see much more of the cold weather of recent days, it is likely that as many as 50,000 people will die unnecessarily over this winter. This is a tragedy in terms of human life and also creates a huge - and preventable - strain on the NHS.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures. Although the Government has shown commitment to tacking the problem, it has not given sufficient priority to such an important public health issue and its approach remains far too uncoordinated.
"All of us must be vigilant at the moment to look out for family, friends and neighbours who may be suffering. Often fatal illnesses develop two or three days after a cold snap has finished."
It is estimated that there are 8,000 extra deaths for every one degree Celsius the temperature is below the winter average.
Didya get that? 1degree of GW can SAVE up to 8000 people per year in GB ALONE..
Not exactly, fecalhead. You're just too retarded to understand that one degree of global warming is not the same as a one degree higher average winter temperature in Great Britain. It doesn't work that way. The global death toll from two degrees of global warming is going to be orders of magnitude greater than 8000 people per year, BTW, but of course, I know you're in denial about that too.
And of course, there is the issue that there are a number of countries that get much colder than Great Britain in the winter without any death toll. According to the Doctor being quoted in the article you quoted, the Brits are just kind of incompetent at dealing with really cold weather.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures."
And you still haven't addressed why you think a country that is nearly 76% desert shouldn't get hot in the summer. Go figure, things like facts just sail right over your pointy little head.Didya get that? 1degree of GW can SAVE up to 8000 people per year in GB ALONE..
Not exactly, fecalhead. You're just too retarded to understand that one degree of global warming is not the same as a one degree higher average winter temperature in Great Britain. It doesn't work that way. The global death toll from two degrees of global warming is going to be orders of magnitude greater than 8000 people per year, BTW, but of course, I know you're in denial about that too.
And of course, there is the issue that there are a number of countries that get much colder than Great Britain in the winter without any death toll. According to the Doctor being quoted in the article you quoted, the Brits are just kind of incompetent at dealing with really cold weather.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures."
You do realize (it was mentioned in the article above) that 2013 was the hottest year on record in Australia. The current heat wave there is a continuation of that and isn't just a seasonal shift. BTW, have you ever tried to function when the temperature is 120 or 122 degrees?Pretty much every winter the denier cult dingbats idiotically scream that "it's so cold where I am therefore global warming must be a hoax", stupidly ignoring that "global" actually means global. Nitwit deniers on this forum have started threads like "where's my global warming?". Get a clue, denier cult fools, more places around the world are unusually hot than unusually cold. For example, as mentioned in this very recent article, Australia and Brazil are both cooking at a 120 degrees or more. I'm not sure how many of these denier cultists have ever experienced temperatures rising to 120 or 122 degrees for days in a row but, the way the world is warming, they soon will.
Bats drop dead from trees: Australia sizzles under record heat
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife, with bats dropping from trees and kangaroos collapsing
The Seattle Times
By ROD McGUIRK - The Associated Press
January 9, 2014
(excerpts)
CANBERRA, Australia Bats are dropping from trees, kangaroos are collapsing in the Outback and gardens are turning brown. While much of North America freezes under record low temperatures, the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing the opposite extreme as heat records are being set in Australia after the hottest year ever. Weather forecasters in Australia said some parts of the sparsely populated Pilbara region along the rugged northwest coast were approaching 122 degrees Fahrenheit on Thursday. Since Dec. 27, records have been set at 34 locations across Australia some by large margins where temperature data has been collected for at least 40 years mostly in Queensland and New South Wales states. Brazil is also sizzling, with the heat index reaching 120 Fahrenheit.
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife. In Winton, famous for being one of the hottest spots in Queensland and where Australias unofficial anthem, Waltzing Matilda, was penned, a large number of parrots, kangaroos and emus have recently been found dead, said Tom Upton, chief executive of Winton Shire Council. At least 50,000 bats had been killed by the heat in the states southeast, said Louise Saunders, president of the Queensland animal-welfare group Bat Conservation and Rescue. Heat-stressed bats including the black flying foxes, little red flying foxes and the endangered gray-headed flying foxes cling to trees and urinate on themselves in a bid to reduce their body temperatures, she said. As they succumb, they just fall in heaps at the base of trees, Saunders said. You can have 250 or more ... all dying at the base of trees.
you do realize that when it is winter here....it is summer there.
You do realize (it was mentioned in the article above) that 2013 was the hottest year on record in Australia. The current heat wave there is a continuation of that and isn't just a seasonal shift. BTW, have you ever tried to function when the temperature is 120 or 122 degrees?Pretty much every winter the denier cult dingbats idiotically scream that "it's so cold where I am therefore global warming must be a hoax", stupidly ignoring that "global" actually means global. Nitwit deniers on this forum have started threads like "where's my global warming?". Get a clue, denier cult fools, more places around the world are unusually hot than unusually cold. For example, as mentioned in this very recent article, Australia and Brazil are both cooking at a 120 degrees or more. I'm not sure how many of these denier cultists have ever experienced temperatures rising to 120 or 122 degrees for days in a row but, the way the world is warming, they soon will.
Bats drop dead from trees: Australia sizzles under record heat
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife, with bats dropping from trees and kangaroos collapsing
The Seattle Times
By ROD McGUIRK - The Associated Press
January 9, 2014
(excerpts)
CANBERRA, Australia Bats are dropping from trees, kangaroos are collapsing in the Outback and gardens are turning brown. While much of North America freezes under record low temperatures, the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing the opposite extreme as heat records are being set in Australia after the hottest year ever. Weather forecasters in Australia said some parts of the sparsely populated Pilbara region along the rugged northwest coast were approaching 122 degrees Fahrenheit on Thursday. Since Dec. 27, records have been set at 34 locations across Australia some by large margins where temperature data has been collected for at least 40 years mostly in Queensland and New South Wales states. Brazil is also sizzling, with the heat index reaching 120 Fahrenheit.
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife. In Winton, famous for being one of the hottest spots in Queensland and where Australias unofficial anthem, Waltzing Matilda, was penned, a large number of parrots, kangaroos and emus have recently been found dead, said Tom Upton, chief executive of Winton Shire Council. At least 50,000 bats had been killed by the heat in the states southeast, said Louise Saunders, president of the Queensland animal-welfare group Bat Conservation and Rescue. Heat-stressed bats including the black flying foxes, little red flying foxes and the endangered gray-headed flying foxes cling to trees and urinate on themselves in a bid to reduce their body temperatures, she said. As they succumb, they just fall in heaps at the base of trees, Saunders said. You can have 250 or more ... all dying at the base of trees.
you do realize that when it is winter here....it is summer there.
And you still haven't addressed why you think a country that is nearly 76% desert shouldn't get hot in the summer. Go figure, things like facts just sail right over your pointy little head.Not exactly, fecalhead. You're just too retarded to understand that one degree of global warming is not the same as a one degree higher average winter temperature in Great Britain. It doesn't work that way. The global death toll from two degrees of global warming is going to be orders of magnitude greater than 8000 people per year, BTW, but of course, I know you're in denial about that too.
And of course, there is the issue that there are a number of countries that get much colder than Great Britain in the winter without any death toll. According to the Doctor being quoted in the article you quoted, the Brits are just kind of incompetent at dealing with really cold weather.
"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with unseasonable low temperatures."
And you're too retarded to comprehend the fact that Australia just had its hottest year on record, spring, summer, fall and winter combined. In 2012, the USA had its hottest year on record. Are you now going to explain how the USA is 76% desert?
We are in the middle of a heatwave right now. Its close to 111 F outside and this will continue for the next three days.
And then?
No, it's pretty plain you're the only retarded person here.And you still haven't addressed why you think a country that is nearly 76% desert shouldn't get hot in the summer. Go figure, things like facts just sail right over your pointy little head.
And you're too retarded to comprehend the fact that Australia just had its hottest year on record, spring, summer, fall and winter combined. In 2012, the USA had its hottest year on record. Are you now going to explain how the USA is 76% desert?
You do a really good job, ProdFcked, of demonstrating how extremely retarded and completely ignorant denier cultists can be.Rolling thunder does a good job of proving his opponents right poor sap.
Here you are moronically misunderstanding what I'm saying in the OP. I point out the record hot temperatures in Australia (and elsewhere) not as "proof" of global warming, but as a logical counter to you denier cultists when you claim that some cold weather in the winter in a relatively small part of the planet somehow is evidence that global warming has "stopped" or even that "it's cooling".Here he is touting weather in one area as proof of global warming.
Anthropogenic global warming is a reality that is affirmed by virtually the entire world scientific community and is observed directly by almost everybody who doesn't have their head jammed up their ass the way you denier cultists do. In your case, ProdFcked, you're so retarded it makes you incredibly gullible and easy for the fossil fuel industry propagandists to bamboozle with lies, misinformation and lame pseudo-science.It's a complete scam people and it's faithful like ole thunderbutt here are either gullible fools or partisan hack liars. There is no third option.
You do realize (it was mentioned in the article above) that 2013 was the hottest year on record in Australia. The current heat wave there is a continuation of that and isn't just a seasonal shift. BTW, have you ever tried to function when the temperature is 120 or 122 degrees?
you do realize that when it is winter here....it is summer there.
you do realize that AU is mostly a desert?
Who in the hell do you think you are? Consider yourself nagged, Rolling Thunder. You don't call good people nasty names here or anywhere else. Got it? I'm going to nag you every time I see you doing that again.
So, let's summarize the denialist arguments.
1. A couple cold days in the USA proves global warming is false, but a whole season of record-breaking heat in the southern hemisphere is meaningless, as is the global temperature average.
2. Denialists aren't cherrypicking when they fixate on a couple days in one location. But when rational people point to various counter-examples specifically to illustrate and counter the denialist cherrypicking, it means the rational people were the ones cherrypicking.
3. The fact that Australia is hot means new all-time heat records are totally meaningless. Because ... because ... well, denialists don't want to explain their chain of logic there.
Conclusion:
1. Denialists are the most expert cherrypickers on planet earth.
2. Denialists project their love of cherrypicking on to honest people.
3. Denialists stink at logic.
Who in the hell do you think you are? Consider yourself nagged, Rolling Thunder. You don't call good people nasty names here or anywhere else. Got it? I'm going to nag you every time I see you doing that again.
Can we assume you're going to show consistency by also negging all the other name-callers in this thread as well?
You're free to neg whoever you want, but don't try to pull this bullshit act about how name-calling offends you. Unless, of course, you start negging your own side for it as well.
I'm the one debunking the retarded lies and oil corp propaganda that retards like you post, freefrombrains.You do a really good job, ProdFcked, of demonstrating how extremely retarded and completely ignorant denier cultists can be.Rolling thunder does a good job of proving his opponents right poor sap.
Here you are moronically misunderstanding what I'm saying in the OP. I point out the record hot temperatures in Australia (and elsewhere) not as "proof" of global warming, but as a logical counter to you denier cultists when you claim that some cold weather in the winter in a relatively small part of the planet somehow is evidence that global warming has "stopped" or even that "it's cooling".Here he is touting weather in one area as proof of global warming.
Anthropogenic global warming is a reality that is affirmed by virtually the entire world scientific community and is observed directly by almost everybody who doesn't have their head jammed up their ass the way you denier cultists do. In your case, ProdFcked, you're so retarded it makes you incredibly gullible and easy for the fossil fuel industry propagandists to bamboozle with lies, misinformation and lame pseudo-science.It's a complete scam people and it's faithful like ole thunderbutt here are either gullible fools or partisan hack liars. There is no third option.
Rolling Thunder: "You do a really good job, ProdFcked, of demonstrating how extremely retarded and completely ignorant denier cultists can be."
Who in the hell do you think you are?
LOLOLOLOL.....a "nagging" troll, that's a new one....and so confused too....you see, I do, in fact, get to call the retarded dupes and paid agents who are pushing the self-serving propaganda of the fossil fuel industry anything that I want to call them. So, get fucked up the ass, you brainless piece of shit.Consider yourself nagged, Rolling Thunder. You don't call good people nasty names here or anywhere else. Got it?
Wooooeeee, big threat, you got me shaking in my boots......LOLOLOLOLOLOL.....I'm going to nag you every time I see you doing that again.
Just because I respect the virtually unanimous testimony of the world's climate scientists as to the grave dangers posed to our world, our civilization and all of the other life forms on this planet by anthropogenic global warming, and just because I'm smart, sane and rational enough to understand the vast amounts of evidence scientists have accumulated supporting AGW, I heartily despise all of the gullible retards like you who are endangering everybody (and all of our descendants), plus everything else of value on this world, for the sake of the profits of the fossil fuel industry and in support of some crazy political ideology.Just because you don't respect yourself...
You really think the more 4-letter words you use on other posters, you have diminished them, don't you.I'm the one debunking the retarded lies and oil corp propaganda that retards like you post, freefrombrains.You do a really good job, ProdFcked, of demonstrating how extremely retarded and completely ignorant denier cultists can be.
Here you are moronically misunderstanding what I'm saying in the OP. I point out the record hot temperatures in Australia (and elsewhere) not as "proof" of global warming, but as a logical counter to you denier cultists when you claim that some cold weather in the winter in a relatively small part of the planet somehow is evidence that global warming has "stopped" or even that "it's cooling".
Anthropogenic global warming is a reality that is affirmed by virtually the entire world scientific community and is observed directly by almost everybody who doesn't have their head jammed up their ass the way you denier cultists do. In your case, ProdFcked, you're so retarded it makes you incredibly gullible and easy for the fossil fuel industry propagandists to bamboozle with lies, misinformation and lame pseudo-science.
Rolling Thunder: "You do a really good job, ProdFcked, of demonstrating how extremely retarded and completely ignorant denier cultists can be."
Who in the hell do you think you are?
LOLOLOLOL.....a "nagging" troll, that's a new one....and so confused too....you see, I do, in fact, get to call the retarded dupes and paid agents who are pushing the self-serving propaganda of the fossil fuel industry anything that I want to call them. So, get fucked up the ass, you brainless piece of shit.
Wooooeeee, big threat, you got me shaking in my boots......LOLOLOLOLOLOL.....I'm going to nag you every time I see you doing that again.
Just because I respect the virtually unanimous testimony of the world's climate scientists as to the grave dangers posed to our world, our civilization and all of the other life forms on this planet by anthropogenic global warming, and just because I'm smart, sane and rational enough to understand the vast amounts of evidence scientists have accumulated supporting AGW, I heartily despise all of the gullible retards like you who are endangering everybody (and all of our descendants), plus everything else of value on this world, for the sake of the profits of the fossil fuel industry and in support of some crazy political ideology.Just because you don't respect yourself...
You are a criminally clueless retard and dupe, freefrombrains. As well as a stupid POS.
And four years ago MILLIONS of animals were killed in Mongolia alone. 50,000 bats vs. MILLIONS. Yeah, that's a real accurate comparison allright.Pretty much every winter the denier cult dingbats idiotically scream that "it's so cold where I am therefore global warming must be a hoax", stupidly ignoring that "global" actually means global. Nitwit deniers on this forum have started threads like "where's my global warming?". Get a clue, denier cult fools, more places around the world are unusually hot than unusually cold. For example, as mentioned in this very recent article, Australia and Brazil are both cooking at a 120 degrees or more. I'm not sure how many of these denier cultists have ever experienced temperatures rising to 120 or 122 degrees for days in a row but, the way the world is warming, they soon will.
Bats drop dead from trees: Australia sizzles under record heat
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife, with bats dropping from trees and kangaroos collapsing
The Seattle Times
By ROD McGUIRK - The Associated Press
January 9, 2014
(excerpts)
CANBERRA, Australia Bats are dropping from trees, kangaroos are collapsing in the Outback and gardens are turning brown. While much of North America freezes under record low temperatures, the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing the opposite extreme as heat records are being set in Australia after the hottest year ever. Weather forecasters in Australia said some parts of the sparsely populated Pilbara region along the rugged northwest coast were approaching 122 degrees Fahrenheit on Thursday. Since Dec. 27, records have been set at 34 locations across Australia some by large margins where temperature data has been collected for at least 40 years mostly in Queensland and New South Wales states. Brazil is also sizzling, with the heat index reaching 120 Fahrenheit.
The heat wave in Australia has taken a toll on wildlife. In Winton, famous for being one of the hottest spots in Queensland and where Australias unofficial anthem, Waltzing Matilda, was penned, a large number of parrots, kangaroos and emus have recently been found dead, said Tom Upton, chief executive of Winton Shire Council. At least 50,000 bats had been killed by the heat in the states southeast, said Louise Saunders, president of the Queensland animal-welfare group Bat Conservation and Rescue. Heat-stressed bats including the black flying foxes, little red flying foxes and the endangered gray-headed flying foxes cling to trees and urinate on themselves in a bid to reduce their body temperatures, she said. As they succumb, they just fall in heaps at the base of trees, Saunders said. You can have 250 or more ... all dying at the base of trees.
"Imagine trying to survive in temperatures below minus 50 degrees F (minus 47 degrees C) for more than a month.
It happened in Mongolia this winterweather so cold that livestock and other animals were dying painfully at a rate of a quarter of a million deaths every week, resulting in the loss of millions of animals over the season.
Imagine the impact such a disaster has on humanseconomically, environmentally and health-wise."
Mongolian dzud kills millions of domestic animals ? News Watch
Or how about the 250,000 ALPACAS! who were killed by extreme cold last year?
"Perus government has declared a state of emergency in parts of the southern Andean region of Puno that have been hit with the coldest temperatures in a decade, daily El Comercio reported.
President Ollanta Humala, visiting the area this week, announced the emergency for seven provinces in Puno Carabaya, Sandia, Lampa, San Antonio de Putina, Melgar, Puno and El Collao.
Hundreds of families have been affected and more than 250,000 alpacas have died due to freezing temperatures and snow storms that have hit the southern highlands.
Vehicles on the highway between Puno and Arequipa were also affected. Passengers on interprovincial buses were forced to wait some eight to 10 hours on the icy highways at temperatures of minus 15 degrees Celsius."
Peru Declares State of Emergency in Puno as Temperatures Drop
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Weather still happens, although it's getting wilder and more extreme now, and some places get hot and some places get cold, but the point is, you poor old senile retard, that more places are getting hotter now than are getting colder. Moreover the hot places are tending to get even hotter and there are fewer extreme cold snaps than there used to be.
