CSM
Senior Member
Truthfully, Sagegirl is correct. Those methods MUST be tried before committing troops. They must be tried with the knowledge that they may not work and those negotiations need to be executed with some backing and positions of power. If not, they will surely fail.no1tovote4 said:My opinion is not based on any "FEAR campaign" or other rhetoric of the talking points you fell for.
I clearly presented a case in which every single one of your ideas had been tried and failed, how they failed, and why they still won't work. Yet you still intend to keep on with the same failed tactics.
Embargo didn't work in Iraq, Saddam stole the money he was supposed to use to feed his people and millions died, he used the money to buy influence with our "allies" in order to end the embargo and just months before the 9/11 attack they had begun aguing for just that. At that point the Deulfer report says Saddam would have begun his WMD schedule in earnest and unfettered by the UN whom he had bought with the money to pay for FOOD.
Embargo didn't work in Cuba, and it won't either.
Negotiation didn't work in NK, they simply took our food and money, which they agreed to take in payment for ending their Nuke Weapons program, and used it to feed the scientists and pay for the technology to get Nuclear Weapons all under UN Inspector's noses whom they kicked out one week before announcing that they were now a Nuclear Power.
Every single one of your ideas to "avoid" the war have been tried and failed, we must stop being naive and use a much more effective means of change.