Baby Dies From Herpes After Circumcision And Oral Suction

Truthseeker420 · Apr 19, 2012

While I certainly believe in religious liberty, this ritual that allows oral contact between the officiant and the babys penis needs to be outlawed. It is morally indefensible and clearly presents an unacceptable health risk:

A 2-week-old baby in New York has died after being circumcised by a Jewish mohel. The infant reportedly contracted herpes when the mohel put his mouth on the babys penis to suck away blood, part of a religious ritual called the metzitzah bpeh, which is sometimes a component of a bris. Although the death occurred in September, it was not made public until Saturday, when the New York Daily News published a story.

Avi Billet is South Florida rabbi and mohel who performs the metzitzah bpeh but in a way that does not involve direct contact with his mouth. He was initially skeptical of the Daily News story, believing it served only to reignite fears from 2005, when several babies in the New York area contracted herpes and at least one died. In the wake of those incidents, the New York City Health Department investigated and issued a fact sheet on metzitzeh bpeh.

There is a safe way to do it with a sterilized tube that is harmless to the baby and still fulfills the Talmudic requirements, Billet told New Times before directing us to his website. There, he quotes the passage in the Talmud that explains how to properly perform a bris. The passage says to draw out blood, but this phrase has been interpreted differently by various Jews. While Reform Jews and Conservative Jews often skip this step during a bris, Billet says Orthodox Jews usually perform it. Yet even within Orthodox Judiasm, there is a debate on how to go about it. Some mohels usually within the Hassidic sect will suck the blood away with their mouths. (This is how babies have gotten infected.) Others, like Billet, say it is acceptable to place a sterile glass tube between the mohels mouth and the babys penis to avoid direct contact.

As a Jew, I perform the metzitzeh bpeh, Billet says, but as a normal thinking person of the 21st Century, I dont think its wise to have the mouth touching an open wound. He has written extensively about how mohels should handle bris ceremonies responsibly.

Its difficult to gather reliable statistics about how many babies die from circumcisions or complications from the procedure. Tim OConnor, spokesperson for the Palm Beach County Health Department, says he doesnt think its possible to track that data because if a baby were to die from a circumcision, hemorrhage or infection would likely be listed as the cause of death. Jenny Mackie, a spokesperson for Broward General Medical Center, says that the hospital does not keep statistics on circumcision complications and that, anecdotally, maternity nurses she asked could not recall any deaths
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What a barbaric practice. Why in the fuck would a rabbi need to suck the blood from his penis with his mouth.

Truthseeker420 · Apr 19, 2012

eots · Apr 19, 2012

Truthseeker420 said: ↑

While I certainly believe in religious liberty, this ritual that allows oral contact between the officiant and the babys penis needs to be outlawed. It is morally indefensible and clearly presents an unacceptable health risk:

A 2-week-old baby in New York has died after being circumcised by a Jewish mohel. The infant reportedly contracted herpes when the mohel put his mouth on the babys penis to suck away blood, part of a religious ritual called the metzitzah bpeh, which is sometimes a component of a bris. Although the death occurred in September, it was not made public until Saturday, when the New York Daily News published a story.

Avi Billet is South Florida rabbi and mohel who performs the metzitzah bpeh but in a way that does not involve direct contact with his mouth. He was initially skeptical of the Daily News story, believing it served only to reignite fears from 2005, when several babies in the New York area contracted herpes and at least one died. In the wake of those incidents, the New York City Health Department investigated and issued a fact sheet on metzitzeh bpeh.

There is a safe way to do it with a sterilized tube that is harmless to the baby and still fulfills the Talmudic requirements, Billet told New Times before directing us to his website. There, he quotes the passage in the Talmud that explains how to properly perform a bris. The passage says to draw out blood, but this phrase has been interpreted differently by various Jews. While Reform Jews and Conservative Jews often skip this step during a bris, Billet says Orthodox Jews usually perform it. Yet even within Orthodox Judiasm, there is a debate on how to go about it. Some mohels usually within the Hassidic sect will suck the blood away with their mouths. (This is how babies have gotten infected.) Others, like Billet, say it is acceptable to place a sterile glass tube between the mohels mouth and the babys penis to avoid direct contact.

As a Jew, I perform the metzitzeh bpeh, Billet says, but as a normal thinking person of the 21st Century, I dont think its wise to have the mouth touching an open wound. He has written extensively about how mohels should handle bris ceremonies responsibly.

Its difficult to gather reliable statistics about how many babies die from circumcisions or complications from the procedure. Tim OConnor, spokesperson for the Palm Beach County Health Department, says he doesnt think its possible to track that data because if a baby were to die from a circumcision, hemorrhage or infection would likely be listed as the cause of death. Jenny Mackie, a spokesperson for Broward General Medical Center, says that the hospital does not keep statistics on circumcision complications and that, anecdotally, maternity nurses she asked could not recall any deaths
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What a barbaric practice. Why in the fuck would a rabbi need to suck the blood from his penis with his mouth.
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eots · Apr 19, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcLq59yrOik]Circumcision: Rabbi Kills Baby - YouTube[/ame]

Truthseeker420 · Apr 19, 2012

eots said: ↑

Circumcision: Rabbi Kills Baby - YouTube
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This practice must be stopped.

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