ATTN Right to work nanny staters

[Quantum Windbag]

You have to love it when a leftie starts a thread and the premise is debunked in the first couple of posts.

This was a self debunking premise, like most of PooP's posts.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Authoritarians hate it when choice is put into the hands of workers.

Its placed into the hands of workers and business making a mutual decision to sign a contract with one another.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Dear Right To Work Big Government Nanny Staters:

If you don't want to work at a job that requires you to join the union, don't. Take some personal responsibility and apply for a job that does not require you to join a union. Don't expect the NANNY STATE to step in and force employers to provide a job that has the conditions you want.


If you don't want to be required to pay homeowner's association fees - don't move to a fucking neighborhood that requires them.

If you don't want to pay union dues - don't get a job that requires it.

Fuck - its that simple. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY - what a concept!

Have you ever heard of the principle of democracy and majority rule? If you don't like it, go to state where they don't have it.

If you don't like OBamaCare move to a country where they don't have it.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Why does the right wing think that the free market needs the NANNY state to intervene in the deals between business and labor? Shouldn't business and labor be allowed to negotiate their own terms?

Closed shops are enforced by the government, you fucking dolt.

All contracts can be enforced by government when one of the parties refuses to comply with the contract. Fuck you're stupid.

Closed shops BTW aren't legal.

Taft


Union shops still are.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Unions discriminate against workers trying to get work.

If you think so then exercise some personal responsibility and don't go to work for a union shop.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Unions also obstruct a business' ability to hire and retain the best workers.

They also interfere with a company's ability to operate efficiently as they see fit.

If a business thinks that then they are free to not sign a contract requiring they hire a union shop.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Dear Right To Work Big Government Nanny Staters:

If you don't want to work at a job that requires you to join the union, don't. Take some personal responsibility and apply for a job that does not require you to join a union. Don't expect the NANNY STATE to step in and force employers to provide a job that has the conditions you want.


If you don't want to be required to pay homeowner's association fees - don't move to a fucking neighborhood that requires them.

If you don't want to pay union dues - don't get a job that requires it.

Fuck - its that simple. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY - what a concept!

About as smart as saying you need a union card to vote in public elections. Employers most likely DON'T want you to have a union card moron. Try reading your posts and understand what you write before posting and letting the world know your witless.

If employers don't want their company to be union shop they should exercise some personal choice and responsibility and not sign a contract requiring it.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Dear Right To Work Big Government Nanny Staters:

If you don't want to work at a job that requires you to join the union, don't. Take some personal responsibility and apply for a job that does not require you to join a union. Don't expect the NANNY STATE to step in and force employers to provide a job that has the conditions you want.


If you don't want to be required to pay homeowner's association fees - don't move to a fucking neighborhood that requires them.

If you don't want to pay union dues - don't get a job that requires it.

Fuck - its that simple. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY - what a concept!

You know, I could just as easily say that if you don't like the way management runs the place you work, you could damned well quit and find a job more suitable to your taste rather than forcing a union on management and fellow workers who may not agree that inviting union thugs to take over is a good idea.

You can't force a union on management. Management and the owners must voluntarily sing a contract accepting a union shop for their to be one. Its called personal responsibility. Look it up.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

You have to love it when a leftie starts a thread and the premise is debunked in the first couple of posts.

I guess so, but that hasn't happened here. There's nothing but a bunch of righties that think the nanny state should tell business and unions what kinds of contracts they may sign with each other.

 

[daveman]

Hey, Oopsie:

What gives a union member a greater right to a job than a non-union member?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

When I was young, I took a job, where I HAD TO join the union. In the first four months, in spite the fact that the union dues were paid, the union would not have moved a finger to protect me or speak for me, had the unfortunate occasion arisen.

At four months and one day I applied for and got a company training program job which allowed me to say goodbye to unions forever.

In the next 37 years I always spoke for myself, never needed union and managed to be moderately successful.

Sounds like you took personal responsibility and left the job you didn't like for the job you wanted. Did you need the nanny state to force your next employer to not have a union shop or was the free and open market sufficient to supply it to you?

 

[Oddball]

You have to love it when a leftie starts a thread and the premise is debunked in the first couple of posts.

I guess so, but that hasn't happened here. There's nothing but a bunch of righties that think the nanny state should tell business and unions what kinds of contracts they may sign with each other.

No, what they're doing is protecting the rights of employees to associate with whom they wish, and not associate with those whom they wish not to.

You, OTOH, want employees forced to pay for something they don't want...Just like the typical progressive/socialist goon aggressor that you are.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Boeing is the prime example of union scums.

Boeing found qualified workers in SC that would help them be more competitive around the world, but WA unions used their Democrap friends in Congress and the White House to block them from leaving town....until a deal was made.

A private company in the USA was told by the Feds they weren't allowed to move their operation to another state.....that is a dictatorship and illegal.

Because moving a company from one state to another is in no way shape or form "commerce among the states" so the feds would have no business interfering.

I'm sorry you think Congress is a dictator.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why does the right wing think that the free market needs the NANNY state to intervene in the deals between business and labor? Shouldn't business and labor be allowed to negotiate their own terms?

Closed shops are enforced by the government, you fucking dolt.

All contracts can be enforced by government when one of the parties refuses to comply with the contract. Fuck you're stupid.

Closed shops BTW aren't legal.

Taft


Union shops still are.

Closed shops ARE legal...I work in one. In the real world, closed shops are the norm, not the exception.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

You have to love it when a leftie starts a thread and the premise is debunked in the first couple of posts.

I guess so, but that hasn't happened here. There's nothing but a bunch of righties that think the nanny state should tell business and unions what kinds of contracts they may sign with each other.

No, what they're doing is protecting the rights of employees to associate with whom they wish, and not associate with those whom they wish not to.

Those rights are protected in all 50 states. There's no law requiring anyone to take a union job.

You, OTOH, want employees forced to pay for something they don't want..Just like a typical progressive/socialist goon aggressor.

No, I do not. And there isn't a single law anywhere that requires them to. You don't want to work for a union shop - then DON'T. The solution is to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and go find the job that suits your needs - not to whine and bitch like a prostitute and expect government to force business to provide jobs that suit your specifications.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Goddamn, you're a stupid shit.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Closed shops are enforced by the government, you fucking dolt.

All contracts can be enforced by government when one of the parties refuses to comply with the contract. Fuck you're stupid.

Closed shops BTW aren't legal.

Taft


Union shops still are.

Closed shops ARE legal...I work in one. In the real world, closed shops are the norm, not the exception.

Unless your work was before 1947, you worked for a union shop.

Closed shops are not legal. Federal law prohibits them.

Learn the fucking difference then come back.

 

[Oddball]

I guess so, but that hasn't happened here. There's nothing but a bunch of righties that think the nanny state should tell business and unions what kinds of contracts they may sign with each other.

No, what they're doing is protecting the rights of employees to associate with whom they wish, and not associate with those whom they wish not to.

Those rights are protected in all 50 states. There's no law requiring anyone to take a union job.

You, OTOH, want employees forced to pay for something they don't want..Just like a typical progressive/socialist goon aggressor.

No, I do not. And there isn't a single law anywhere that requires them to. You don't want to work for a union shop - then DON'T. The solution is to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and go find the job that suits your needs - not to whine and bitch like a prostitute and expect government to force business to provide jobs that suit your specifications.

But there is a requirement to join unions if it's a union shop....My brother is right now being forced to join AFSCME and pay their loot...er...dues, even though he knows what a bunch of worthless racketeers they are.

That is what right-to-work is all about.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Goddamn, you're a stupid shit.

I'm sorry you think that.

 

[Oddball]

Goddamn, you're a stupid shit.

I'm sorry you think that.

It's not just he who believes that, comrade.