Atheist here, religion isn't the reason for war

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    It is often the EXCUSE but not the reason, very different in my opinion.

    If tomorrow all religions disappeared man would still kill each other, still go to war, still take advantage of each other etc etc etc. I don't think more war would happen without religion, but it's certainly not the reason war happens.

    War is about power, money and land and many military leaders will motivate using religion. "Go risk your life and kill the other guy because our government needs more land and our bureacrats need more money and power!" That wouldn't motivate too many soldiers I don't think.
     
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    Yep, as I said in the other similar thread on this. Religion is just a tool of those in power.
     
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    Correct, the main reason I'm an atheist is science. Morally most religious books say good and bad things that just contradict each other so that's not near the main reason for me. I can be a good person as an atheist and when I was a kid I think I was a good kid and I was a christian.
     
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    True. That what I think is the big difference between a religion and a belief system. Religion is collective and institutional, a belief system is individual and not dictated by a third party.
     
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    I had a preacher friend tell me once that he just wished that all of the members in his church was as good of a people as I was. But said I was still going to hell :)
    I just replied that I would have the company of a lot of his church members in hell. He just smiled and shook his head yes.
     
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    Well as long as he's not judging lol.
     
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    That is rather naive, unless you are trying to claim that communism and socialism are religions.
     
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    Careful you're not replacing one religion with another. So much of what they are passing off as "science" today, actually isn't. But they call it that, and the faithful minions follow.

    Quick question, from one Atheist to another: Do God, Gods and Deities exist?
     
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    I am going to downgrade the description of myself to agnostic. (notice--there is no such thing as a downgraded Christian, Muslim or Buddhists. Thus the difference in a lack of an actual belief system.)

    The reason is quite simple---I do not know What a God, Gods, or Deities are.

    Science is not the reason why I disbelieve. Nor is it the actions of a person/people in a certain faith that led me down that road.

    I am naturally skeptical of people and their claims. The more fantasy like, the more I disbelieve.

    My favorite fanciful stories come from the Testimonies in the New Testament. They say that Jesus raised the dead and risen from the dead--but the Pharisees did not see this because Jesus was hiding and wearing disguises. I do not understand why Jesus wore disguises and hid since before he tried to convince everyone and their momma that he was the messiah. Maybe it was because Jesus was actually dead!
     
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    Personally I never know what to label myself as, atheist or agnostic. I'm 99.99999999999% sure there's not a god, but not 100% I'm also 99.99999999999999% sure there's no dancing unicorn in a far off galaxy who's responsible for creating the universe. So what does that make me? I'm not concerned with the label, it's just easier to call myself atheist than type out that paragraph every time.
     
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