Atheist guilty over cartoons

[Granny]

Had this happened in America, I would say to charge the guy with hate crimes. Athiests are far more offensive in their hatred for religion than those people in some churches who feel it's their mission in life to "spread the Word."

Athiests don't grasp the concept of "to each his own." Instead, they scream and defile, turn purple, have veins popped up an inch high from head to toe and piss kidney stones the size of basketballs at the sight of anything of a religious nature. In other words, "I don't believe this bullshit and I want you banned from believing or practicing it as well."



No, I don't go to church or practice any particular religion ... but I do believe.

 

[TheRed]

It was at Liverpool's John Lennon airport. The atheist stood up for himself stating that "John Lennon believed in the same as himself, so the airport should not even have a prayer room".

It is not a crime to be anti-religious in a religious area in the UK. It is a crime if you went up to a religious person and assulted them for their religion (then it would be an assult charge, just like if you assulted anyone else). Yes, the place can ban the person but I thought that the conviction was ridiculous in this day and age.

The UK government is mainly to blame, the UK people have been trying to campaign for a better criminal justice system. Big-time criminals like murderers can get their sentences halved if they behave in jail, but if it is tax evasion (or even an event as mild as this) then the full sentence is thrown at the convict.

Kind of reminds me of the past when non-religious people were punished. Most religious people here I know of would just laugh it off, or forgive (like the Christian religion preaches). I do kind of understand the viewpoint that the airport was dedicated to John Lennon and so it should stand by a few of his values.

I was shocked to find this news report today :O.

 

[del]

Yes, but as a private entity, the Church has every right to ban you from the premises.


Inflame to what? Since when has "making someone mad" been a crime?

Is it distasteful? Yes. Does the airport have the right to ban him from their property? Yes.

Is it a crime? No.

Not in the UK, it's incitement and that is illegal. The UK laws about this stuff is tricky - they are very protective of minorities. If the cartoons were placed somewhere in a public place that is set aside for minority religions, then he is probably toast. And I have no problem with him being toast. He has a whole wide world to pursue his 'art'. He should allow others to hold their own views without having to tolerate his offensive behavior towards them.

*saves for future reference the next time the above **** claims to stand for liberty and freedom of speech*

*saves for future reference the next time the above cockbreath claims to have cognitive abilities meeting or exceeding those of a brussels sprout.*

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Figures Del joins in to attack someone for exercising free speech when he disagrees with their views.

 

[Kalam]

Should he be prosecuted? Yes, because he purposefully left pornographic material in a public area, did he not? Religion should be open to criticism, but there's a significant difference between posting 99 theses and posting porn.

 

[amrchaos]

It is called grafetti folks!!

Kick his ass.

Now if it was a Billboard then....

 

[xsited1]

Right or wrong to convict this guy?

Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

A 59-year-old atheist who left anti-religious images in Liverpool Airport's prayer room has been found guilty of intending to cause distress.

Harry Taylor, of Griffen Street, Salford, was convicted of three charges of religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The images included cartoons of important religious figures in sexual poses, Liverpool Crown Court heard.

BBC News - Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

That sounds like something I would do. Did he make a Muslim mad? Since the UK is fast becoming a Muslim stronghold, I'm guessing they didn't want to have a rash of beheadings.

 

[Anguille]

Right or wrong to convict this guy?

Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

A 59-year-old atheist who left anti-religious images in Liverpool Airport's prayer room has been found guilty of intending to cause distress.

Harry Taylor, of Griffen Street, Salford, was convicted of three charges of religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The images included cartoons of important religious figures in sexual poses, Liverpool Crown Court heard.

BBC News - Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

I don't know if he was right or wrong to do that but he sure has a sense of humor.

 

[Anguille]

From the article:
"Terry Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society, said the prosecution had brought blasphemy laws "in through the back door".
He said: "This is a disgraceful verdict, but an inevitable one under this pernicious law.
"It seems incredible in the 21st Century that you might be sent to prison because someone is 'offended' by your views on their religion.
"The blasphemy law was abolished three years ago, but it lives on under the guise of religiously aggravated offences and is several times more dangerous.
"Mr Taylor struck me as slightly eccentric and he acted in a provocative way."
He added: "In a multicultural society, none of us should have the legal right not to be offended. This law needs to be re-examined urgently."



I think this guy makes a good point.

 

[Anguille]

Right or wrong to convict this guy?

Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

A 59-year-old atheist who left anti-religious images in Liverpool Airport's prayer room has been found guilty of intending to cause distress.

Harry Taylor, of Griffen Street, Salford, was convicted of three charges of religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The images included cartoons of important religious figures in sexual poses, Liverpool Crown Court heard.

BBC News - Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

Do they convict everyone who leaves bible tracts lying around where atheists, muslims, jews, luciferians, andchildren molested by priests can find them?

All of them, including the atheist in question, are guilty of littering.

 

[tigerbob]

is it free speech in the US if i go into a church and leave anti-religious pamphlets including cartoons of a priest fucking a goat, for example, in the pews?

Yes, but as a private entity, the Church has every right to ban you from the premises.

hm, sounds complicated.

this "atheist" is a real-life troll and an embarrassment for self-respecting atheists.

i have no idea if he should be convicted. certainly not with a special "anti-religion" malus.

he should get the same treatment as a Liverpool fan who puts anti-ManU fliers into a ManU-Fanclubhouse.

Hero worship, you mean?

 

[tigerbob]

Right or wrong to convict this guy?

Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

A 59-year-old atheist who left anti-religious images in Liverpool Airport's prayer room has been found guilty of intending to cause distress.

Harry Taylor, of Griffen Street, Salford, was convicted of three charges of religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The images included cartoons of important religious figures in sexual poses, Liverpool Crown Court heard.

BBC News - Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

Do they convict everyone who leaves bible tracts lying around where atheists, muslims, jews, luciferians, andchildren molested by priests can find them?

Is that a rhetorical question? Do you know the answer?

 

[tigerbob]

It was clearly designed to inflame. I have no problem with anti-religious cartoons or anything else, I have an issue with where they were placed. That is inciting. Atheists, like everyone else, is entitled to their view but to put them in a place set aside for religious purposes seems more like provocation than a genuine desire to pursue their 'art'.

So if I leave a bible or a Koran in a synagogue, I should be prosecuted?

And you wonder why people call Righties fascists...

Does the bible or koran in question have a picture of Moses fucking a goat and Daniel blowing a lion on the front cover?

 

[tigerbob]

Right or wrong to convict this guy?

Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

A 59-year-old atheist who left anti-religious images in Liverpool Airport's prayer room has been found guilty of intending to cause distress.

Harry Taylor, of Griffen Street, Salford, was convicted of three charges of religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The images included cartoons of important religious figures in sexual poses, Liverpool Crown Court heard.

BBC News - Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool Airport

That sounds like something I would do. Did he make a Muslim mad? Since the UK is fast becoming a Muslim stronghold, I'm guessing they didn't want to have a rash of beheadings.

The article says it's a "prayer room", which seems to imply multi faith.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Guy is a total creep.

That is not a crime

If being a creep were a crime, this guy.... what kind of jerk does this just to annoy people?

 

[tigerbob]

Guy is a total creep.

That is not a crime

If being a creep were a crime, this guy.... what kind of jerk does this just to annoy people?

There are plenty of atheists that delight in mocking the beliefs of the faithful. And of course there are plenty of "faithful" that view it as their calling to force their principles or beliefs down the throats of non believers (or indeed those with different beliefs).

A jerk is a jerk.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

It was clearly designed to inflame. I have no problem with anti-religious cartoons or anything else, I have an issue with where they were placed. That is inciting. Atheists, like everyone else, is entitled to their view but to put them in a place set aside for religious purposes seems more like provocation than a genuine desire to pursue their 'art'.

So if I leave a bible or a Koran in a synagogue, I should be prosecuted?

And you wonder why people call Righties fascists...

Does the bible or koran in question have a picture of Moses fucking a goat and Daniel blowing a lion on the front cover?

It has some guys being raped, some fags being set on fire, some babies being 'dashed to pieces upon the rocks'

 

[tigerbob]

So if I leave a bible or a Koran in a synagogue, I should be prosecuted?

And you wonder why people call Righties fascists...

Does the bible or koran in question have a picture of Moses fucking a goat and Daniel blowing a lion on the front cover?

It has some guys being raped, some fags being set on fire, some babies being 'dashed to pieces upon the rocks'

I'm not sure that Jews would be particularly shocked by old testament stories, but whatever.

Are there pictures of these events on the cover of the bible or koran in question? Were these stories written purely for the purpose of annoying followers of Judaism?

I think you may be disappearing down the rabbit hole, Alice.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Funny. Rather than complaining about the sexual content, you keep crying time and again about it making fun of your god.


I wonder... if we dig up some old threads about Muslims being mad about those Danish cartoons that mocked Muhammed, how many of you said the same shit and how many joined in attacking Islam.

 

[tigerbob]

Funny. Rather than complaining about the sexual content, you keep crying time and again about it making fun of your god.


I wonder... if we dig up some old threads about Muslims being mad about those Danish cartoons that mocked Muhammed, how many of you said the same shit and how many joined in attacking Islam.

Not sure where you've got that from. I haven't mentioned if I have a God, let alone who it is.

I have no issue with the Danish cartoons attacking Islam. I would have an issue if they were deliberately left in a mosque. One is free speech, the second is, IMO, a deliberate provocation about which Muslims would be well within their rights to complain.