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Mac1958

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From Bespoke. Always interesting.
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Still...nowhere close to “capitulation” wouldn’t you agree?
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

Years ago one might suppose hay for their horse prices were of interest too. People in the good old days worked up to the time most of them died. Times Change and we need to prepare for the future, in personal matters and in politics.
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

Years ago one might suppose hay for their horse prices were of interest too. People in the good old days worked up to the time most of them died. Times Change and we need to prepare for the future, in personal matters and in politics.
And still the Dow is going to go up again. We have been paying high prices to import fuel from the countries everyone has been yelling about that we need to hate and have nothing to do with.

How many of those making minimum wage are heavily invested in the stock market? If the Dow rises a thousand points in the next week will it really make your immediate life better or will the price you have to shell out everyday to fuel your car or even pay in prices to fuel company fleets be more of a concern?
You do realize that most people had their own hay?
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

Years ago one might suppose hay for their horse prices were of interest too. People in the good old days worked up to the time most of them died. Times Change and we need to prepare for the future, in personal matters and in politics.
Years ago people were responsible in their personal matters AND their politics. Not today.
 
Markets & Chaos don't mix well. Trump's erratic behavior should be considered when one asks why their investments ended the year of 2018 in the RED.

No sane person should judge his investments by a day on the calendar. Mine are in the black by the way. Lifelong investor here.
Enjoy your food stamps.
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

But now that fuel is dirt cheap they have to pretend fuel is bad.
Insane people PKD or Vonnegut would have struggled to describe.
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

Years ago one might suppose hay for their horse prices were of interest too. People in the good old days worked up to the time most of them died. Times Change and we need to prepare for the future, in personal matters and in politics.

Years ago people were responsible in their personal matters AND their politics. Not today.

That's ^^^ the conservative meme. The fact is some of us do plan for the future, and reap the benefits. Others don't, and many times because circumstances won't allow them to plan ahead.

CEO's, etc. don't live check to check, many - too many - American families do. As for politics, I suspect and hope that the message rang loud and clear this past November. Promises made by demagogues (and in the current case demagogues and charlatans) rarely come to fruition.
 
Years ago people were more interested in fuel prices then they were on the stock market.

Years ago one might suppose hay for their horse prices were of interest too. People in the good old days worked up to the time most of them died. Times Change and we need to prepare for the future, in personal matters and in politics.
And still the Dow is going to go up again. We have been paying high prices to import fuel from the countries everyone has been yelling about that we need to hate and have nothing to do with.

How many of those making minimum wage are heavily invested in the stock market? If the Dow rises a thousand points in the next week will it really make your immediate life better or will the price you have to shell out everyday to fuel your car or even pay in prices to fuel company fleets be more of a concern?
You do realize that most people had their own hay?

Yes it will (go up again). And down again. And up again. It’s what markets do in anything. Even that ancient store of value, gold, goes up and down.
People too stupid to grasp that are easy marks for socialists.
 
Perhaps a bit too early, but I am fully invested at this point. Bought in last week. Odds are we will see a 15 - 20% increase in six to twelve months. I am good with that.
 
Energy independence was and is extremely important for our country. We were in a very tenuous position for decades being so heavily dependent on imported oil from questionable/hostile countries. We are now in a position of strength where we can have those nations, pardon the pun, over a barrel. That is a tremendous reversal strategically and great for America. And yes the low gas prices filter down and benefit the poorest Americans.
 
Anyone here ever follow Paul Merriman? He opened my eyes years ago to the forgotten and ignored ideas of generational wealth. Each generation starting anew is sad. I work only for my kids.
 
Perhaps a bit too early, but I am fully invested at this point. Bought in last week. Odds are we will see a 15 - 20% increase in six to twelve months. I am good with that.

I’m back to fully invested and still buying of course. I am almost always 100% stock. I had moved some to mm in October but now back in. I’m 53 and had assumed I wouldn’t see another opportunity like this.
I’m not sure we are done with volatility though. I just have to accept I am no better at spotting a bottom than I am a top.
One thing not to be forgotten in these times. We are and will be in a rising interest rate environment. Sooner or later that hits every asset.
 
Markets & Chaos don't mix well. Trump's erratic behavior should be considered when one asks why their investments ended the year of 2018 in the RED.

No sane person should judge his investments by a day on the calendar. Mine are in the black by the way. Lifelong investor here.
Enjoy your food stamps.

No sane person believes you. Since all three major markets ended 2018 in the red, maybe you could explain how you were able to remain in the black?

And F. U. on your food stamps remark. Look up what a Commander in a SF Bay Area Police Agency earns, and what they would earn on safety retirement (3%@50) + Ventura Decision*** & the sale of Vacation and management leave, plus 3% COLA each year.

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No sane person believes you. Since all three major markets ended 2018 in the red, maybe you could explain how you were able to remain in the black?

And F. U. on your food stamps remark. Look up what a Commander in a SF Bay Area Police Agency earns, and what they would earn on safety retirement (3%@50) + Ventura Decision*** & the sale of Vacation and management leave, plus 3% COLA each year.

Employee Services hot topics page 1

He doesn't buy the market, he buys stocks. I got extra ham and cookies if you need them.
 
No sane person believes you. Since all three major markets ended 2018 in the red, maybe you could explain how you were able to remain in the black?

And F. U. on your food stamps remark. Look up what a Commander in a SF Bay Area Police Agency earns, and what they would earn on safety retirement (3%@50) + Ventura Decision*** & the sale of Vacation and management leave, plus 3% COLA each year.

Employee Services hot topics page 1

He doesn't buy the market, he buys stocks. I got extra ham and cookies if you need them.

I have plenty of extra IQ points, which you obviously need. My efforts to educate you seem to have fallen away.
 
Markets & Chaos don't mix well. Trump's erratic behavior should be considered when one asks why their investments ended the year of 2018 in the RED.

No sane person should judge his investments by a day on the calendar. Mine are in the black by the way. Lifelong investor here.
Enjoy your food stamps.

No sane person believes you. Since all three major markets ended 2018 in the red, maybe you could explain how you were able to remain in the black?

And F. U. on your food stamps remark. Look up what a Commander in a SF Bay Area Police Agency earns, and what they would earn on safety retirement (3%@50) + Ventura Decision*** & the sale of Vacation and management leave, plus 3% COLA each year.

Employee Services hot topics page 1

And this is what I mean. You live in an artificially walled garden. No complaints implied to police officers....police officers are cheap for the benefits they provide. But watch your pension fund. I haven’t seen one in California fully funded yet.

But the problem I have with your anti-trump opportunism is you have an artificial time frame. I’m in the black in the funds I own and that’s a fact. I’ve been buying since 1996. I didn’t sell a single share Dec 31. Jan 1 is no different from Dec 31 to me.

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I could liquidate now and still have a positive return on my investments.

So go ahead and complain about the calendar. It’s short sighted and not conducive to building wealth. Not that you care. Another voter proposition backed by Pelosi or judicial hammering of taxpayers and any gaps in yours are filled.
 

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