Armenian massacres on Azerbaycan-Turks
http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/default_en.asp?belgeno=3347
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canavar said:Turkish Diplomats killed by Armenian Terrorits.
http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/default_en.asp?belgeno=3401
Now that I'm aware of, one was killed here, not far from my house. There were attempts on two others,with one surviving. Another was shot while out of the country.
Did I mention I had a job interveiw at the Turkish Embassy here, several years ago? Crappy pay and long hours, really nice people though.
canavar said:Armenian massacres on Azerbaycan-Turks
http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/default_en.asp?belgeno=3347
Said1 said:canavar said:Turkish Diplomats killed by Armenian Terrorits.
http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/default_en.asp?belgeno=3401
Now that I'm aware of, one was killed here, not far from my house. There were attempts on two others,with one surviving. Another was shot while out of the country.
Did I mention I had a job interveiw at the Turkish Embassy here, several years ago? Crappy pay and long hours, really nice people though.
yes, thank you for these words, so you have for sure than be invited for turkish cay (black tea)?
Said1 ?
i have much more facts and links.
But i do not know if you think, when i post much more that this is then spam...
canavar said:all proved by international Historicians from out "NAtional Archives"
SCANNED PICTURES OF ORIGINALS
why does Armenia do not open their "NAtional Archives" ?
and so on and so on
look here for more
http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/default_en.asp?blgeno=3597
Said1 said:What am I supposed to do with those links?? Are they translated somewhere?? I could say something else about state archives, but I won't.
Said1 said:What am I supposed to do with those links?? Are they translated somewhere?? I could say something else about state archives, but I won't.
canavar said:that state archives are falsified by turks?
it is not possile to falsify those state documents.
As i said, international historicians proofed all original.
Turkish archives open for everyone.
French, Russian and Armenian not...
They only accuse not prove.
Why have Armenians never took Turks to court then?
when they have proofs?
SAID1 ? many decades the british "Blue Book", "Andorian documents", "Talat Pasa Telegrafs" were one of the main proofs for The Armenians to accuse Turkey for Genocide...
Do you want Information, how Armenians falsified them?
This is courtly proven. A french court-judgement says: these not acceptabel...
canavar said:i know, i remember your Messages through PM.
I did not want to offend you.
but it makes me sad, when everyone does only of Christ Armenians and does not know of murdered Turks. Perhaps they are Muslims.
over 500.000 Turks murdered by Armenians... In That Time Turkey was only about 15 mio People... so almost every Family has lost people...
We turks do not ignire these massacres, made by Armenians on Kurds+Turks.
Also we ignore not massacres by Turks+Kurds on Armenians when Armenians where Transportized to Syria.
You have always to remember, Turkey was f.... up from every Major Power in every 4 directions...
French, Russia, Arabs, England, Australia and so on... All attacking us, and the whole empire dying and groups rebelling, motivated by these Major-Powers to rebel. And were financed and equipped with weapons.
Groups rebelling, that we were living in Peace with, until Europeans brought Philosophy of Nationalism to Ottoman Empire.
And of course, The germans, which had interests in Middle East oil, and were the generals of our army as we were allied.
I did not say Germans Genocide.
When you want, i can again tell you about German entangling in all these happenings.
as some minutes ago, i think i could not explain you, as you think, as i sid, germans would genocide.
canavar said:but under these scanned documents ther are englisch sentences compacting the original document...
We Turks changed our Alphabet from Arabic to Latin in 1920s by ATATÜRK.
He did do much much more, but this is not topic here
Said1 said:Trust me, I understand more than you think and have no desire to pick apart every last thing you post at this point in time. However, given the history between the Turks and Armenians, it's easy to see how this happened and why the Armenians were also seen as such a threat. You have posted as much yourself ( even though one of the articles you posted clams most Armenians were neutral??).
I'm aware of Germany's interest in the Middle East at that time, but I'm not following you here - would or wouldn't genocide?
canavar said:No, as i metioned, Germans built Bagdad-Bahn connecting Istanbul with Bagdad by train. To supply Germany with oil. Also that germany can handle quick situations in these regions. because turkish infrastructure bad and no industrialization at this time as in europe.
As i said, armenians were living on the route of this trainway. As we now know, Armenians rebelled.
So Armeinains were then deployed from these regions to Syria. Plus they sympatized with russia, massacres, rebelling
When russia get those regions by Armenians, then shit, both for Turkey and as well for Germany.
This Miltary strategy.
Look, here is listing of top-leading German Generals of Ottoman Army...
Chief of Military Headstaff (Number One in Army)
Generalmajor Bronsart von Schellendorf
General of Ottoman Cavalry
Liman von Sanders
Leader of 6th Ottoman Army
Generalfeldmarschall (Pascha) Freiherr von der Goltz
General of Ottoman Navy
Konteradmiral Souchon
Admiral for Dardanelles
Admiral von Usedom
Admiral for Anatolian Water Ways (Tigris+Euphrat)
Admiral Merten
Commander of 9th division
Oberst Pötrih
Commander of 13th Division
Oberst Havik
Kommandeur XIV. Korps
Brigadegeneral Trommer
Commander of Torpedo-boats
Kapitänleutnant Firle
Weponsinspector
Kapitän zur See Pieper
Commander Coastdefence Suvla-Bucht
Major Willmer
Commander of biggest artilery-divison
Hauptmann Wilhelmi
and so on and so on