Are Catholics and Islamists the same?

No, Not only no, but fuck no.

Islam was started by a thug that forced people to convert...Catholics were started by a man of peace that may at times through history had popes that didn't follow to the "t" that mindset....Catholics promoted western civilization that at least developed into the civilization that we enjoy.

Islam fucked goats and killed people. Of course, there was a period and place like in Baghdad that it didn't, but in general.
 
there have been elements of catholic doctrine and there have been elements within the catholic church who have been ENTIRELY CONSISTENT with muslim dogma -----something like the alliance between Italy and Adolf Hitler----really VERY VERY similar in nature. Pope John
XIII repudiated the idea-----but he had and still has OPPONENTS
 
there is no question that islamists and catholics are NOT THE SAME------however the dogma supporting the Inquisition was VERY MUCH like the dogma supporting present day "jihad" ---
actually identical. Hernan Cortez pillaged and murdered the Aztecs for the same reason Isis took Baghdad and Mosul. Catholics gave up the Inquisition
 
What about the idea that the catholics started the Islamic religion? Was Muhammed married to Khadija? Was she a catholic? Was her cousin Waraquah a catholic? Why do muslims hate Christians if the muslim prophet was married to a Christian? She was 40 when he was 25. Seems like she could influence him greatly. Some believe that the catholics created the Koran and set the muslim people against the Jews to try and take Jerusalem. Why is the Pope kissing the Koran which goes against the teachings of Christ?
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As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:

 
As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:



sorry ----I cannot do videos----but-----at the time muhummad was active in the business of his wealthy (older) wife----he was exposed to Christians, jews,
Zoroastrians, Sabeans----etc. He was CLEARLY
very much influenced by both Christian and Jewish
theology --------is that not enough ?? Arabia at that time was not "ARAB" It was a busy commercial highway to the east (and back again) and---to the north and west. He also seems to have been influenced by
Zoroastrians------sorta
 
I found this video to be quite interesting.


hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians


From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

  • Maifreda da († 1300)
  • Andrea Saramiti († 1300)
  • Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy
  • Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy
  • Brother Longino († 1307), Italy
  • Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)
  • Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)
  • Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)
  • Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555
  • John Rogers († 1555), London, England
  • Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
  • Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
  • Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
  • John Hooper († 1555), England
  • Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
  • Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
  • Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
  • Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
  • Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
  • Paolo Rappi († 1555)
  • Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
  • Labori Antonio († 1555)
  • John Bradford († 1555), London, England
  • Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
  • Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
  • Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
  • Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
  • Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
  • Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
  • Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
  • Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
  • Francesco Cartone († 1558)
  • Antonio di Colella († 1559)
  • Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
  • Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
  • Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
  • Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
  • Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
  • Bernardino Conte († 1560)
  • Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
  • Luca di Faenza († 1568)
  • Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
  • Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
  • Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
  • Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
  • Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
  • Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
  • Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
  • Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
  • Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
  • Ludovico Moro († 1583)
  • Pietro Benato († 1585)
  • Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
  • Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
  • Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
  • Fra Celestino († 1599)
  • Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
  • Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
  • Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
  • Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
  • Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain
The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.
 
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I found this video to be quite interesting.


hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians


From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

  • Maifreda da († 1300)
  • Andrea Saramiti († 1300)
  • Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy
  • Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy
  • Brother Longino († 1307), Italy
  • Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)
  • Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)
  • Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)
  • Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555
  • John Rogers († 1555), London, England
  • Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
  • Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
  • Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
  • John Hooper († 1555), England
  • Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
  • Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
  • Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
  • Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
  • Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
  • Paolo Rappi († 1555)
  • Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
  • Labori Antonio († 1555)
  • John Bradford († 1555), London, England
  • Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
  • Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
  • Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
  • Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
  • Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
  • Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
  • Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
  • Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
  • Francesco Cartone († 1558)
  • Antonio di Colella († 1559)
  • Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
  • Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
  • Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
  • Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
  • Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
  • Bernardino Conte († 1560)
  • Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
  • Luca di Faenza († 1568)
  • Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
  • Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
  • Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
  • Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
  • Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
  • Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
  • Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
  • Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
  • Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
  • Ludovico Moro († 1583)
  • Pietro Benato († 1585)
  • Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
  • Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
  • Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
  • Fra Celestino († 1599)
  • Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
  • Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
  • Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
  • Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
  • Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain
The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

1721 vs last month

go fuck yourself
 
Anybody know when the big C 'Catholic Church' actually started? Hint the capital C 'Catholicism' developed after Mohammed; not to be confused with the early Roman church. Christianity is a 'catholic' religion, small c, a word meaning 'universal'; some have confused them and cite early writings that used the word 'catholic' and erroneously think they're referring to the medieval Catholicism.

Most of what people know about 'The Inquisition' is a lot of ridiculous rot based on Protestant propaganda from the Reformation and after. If all the people alleged to have been killed by da evul Church were actually killed, Europe would have a population today of around 5. I'm not a Catholic, nor am I religious, but most of the propaganda re the Catholic Church is a load of hogwash and lies.
 
I found this video to be quite interesting.


hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians


From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

  • Maifreda da († 1300)
  • Andrea Saramiti († 1300)
  • Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy
  • Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy
  • Brother Longino († 1307), Italy
  • Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)
  • Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)
  • Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)
  • Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555
  • John Rogers († 1555), London, England
  • Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
  • Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
  • Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
  • John Hooper († 1555), England
  • Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
  • Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
  • Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
  • Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
  • Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
  • Paolo Rappi († 1555)
  • Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
  • Labori Antonio († 1555)
  • John Bradford († 1555), London, England
  • Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
  • Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
  • Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
  • Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
  • Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
  • Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
  • Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
  • Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
  • Francesco Cartone († 1558)
  • Antonio di Colella († 1559)
  • Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
  • Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
  • Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
  • Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
  • Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
  • Bernardino Conte († 1560)
  • Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
  • Luca di Faenza († 1568)
  • Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
  • Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
  • Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
  • Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
  • Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
  • Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
  • Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
  • Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
  • Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
  • Ludovico Moro († 1583)
  • Pietro Benato († 1585)
  • Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
  • Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
  • Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
  • Fra Celestino († 1599)
  • Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
  • Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
  • Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
  • Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
  • Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain
The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.


Well, I clicked on the first name on your list, and found he was killed by a mob, not the Church; didn't feel like clicking on any more after that.
 
I found this video to be quite interesting.


hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians


From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

  • Maifreda da († 1300)
  • Andrea Saramiti († 1300)
  • Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy
  • Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy
  • Brother Longino († 1307), Italy
  • Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)
  • Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)
  • Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)
  • Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)
  • Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555
  • John Rogers († 1555), London, England
  • Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
  • Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
  • Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
  • John Hooper († 1555), England
  • Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
  • Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
  • Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
  • Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
  • Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
  • Paolo Rappi († 1555)
  • Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
  • Labori Antonio († 1555)
  • John Bradford († 1555), London, England
  • Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
  • Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
  • Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
  • Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
  • Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
  • Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
  • Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
  • Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
  • Francesco Cartone († 1558)
  • Antonio di Colella († 1559)
  • Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
  • Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
  • Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
  • Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
  • Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
  • Bernardino Conte († 1560)
  • Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
  • Luca di Faenza († 1568)
  • Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
  • Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
  • Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
  • Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
  • Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
  • Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
  • Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
  • Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
  • Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
  • Ludovico Moro († 1583)
  • Pietro Benato († 1585)
  • Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
  • Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
  • Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
  • Fra Celestino († 1599)
  • Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
  • Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
  • Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
  • Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
  • Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain
The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.


Well, I clicked on the first name on your list, and found he was killed by a mob, not the Church; didn't feel like clicking on any more after that.


And why do you think the mob was angry at him?
 

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