Are Catholics and Islamists the same?

[Picaro]

As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:

sorry ----I cannot do videos----but-----at the time muhummad was active in the business of his wealthy (older) wife----he was exposed to Christians, jews,
Zoroastrians, Sabeans----etc. He was CLEARLY
very much influenced by both Christian and Jewish
theology --------is that not enough ?? Arabia at that time was not "ARAB" It was a busy commercial highway to the east (and back again) and---to the north and west. He also seems to have been influenced by
Zoroastrians------sorta

He stole from whatever he felt like would make him look good or justify his current actions. He was just making it all up as he went along; the Koran is just a load of disconnected, contradictory rubbish. It's not a religion, it's a violent political cult designed for bandits and murderers.

 

[Picaro]

Are you a revisionist?

I actually study history. Apparently that's not fair to those who don't.

 

[irosie91]

As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:

sorry ----I cannot do videos----but-----at the time muhummad was active in the business of his wealthy (older) wife----he was exposed to Christians, jews,
Zoroastrians, Sabeans----etc. He was CLEARLY
very much influenced by both Christian and Jewish
theology --------is that not enough ?? Arabia at that time was not "ARAB" It was a busy commercial highway to the east (and back again) and---to the north and west. He also seems to have been influenced by
Zoroastrians------sorta

He stole from whatever he felt like would make him look good or justify his current actions. He was just making it all up as he went along; the Koran is just a load of disconnected, contradictory rubbish. It's not a religion, it's a violent political cult designed for bandits and murderers.

It is an amusing book ------you can follow the utter self-promoting of the disgusting pig

 

[Picaro]

there is no question that islamists and catholics are NOT THE SAME------however the dogma supporting the Inquisition was VERY MUCH like the dogma supporting present day "jihad" ---
actually identical. Hernan Cortez pillaged and murdered the Aztecs for the same reason Isis took Baghdad and Mosul. Catholics gave up the Inquisition

Which Inquisition? Was Cortez a Pope? Which dogma was very much like the jihad? Jews conducted massacres against others, particularly Christians as well. By your apparent comparisons, do you consider Jews to be very much like Muslim jihadis?

 

[Picaro]

As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:

sorry ----I cannot do videos----but-----at the time muhummad was active in the business of his wealthy (older) wife----he was exposed to Christians, jews,
Zoroastrians, Sabeans----etc. He was CLEARLY
very much influenced by both Christian and Jewish
theology --------is that not enough ?? Arabia at that time was not "ARAB" It was a busy commercial highway to the east (and back again) and---to the north and west. He also seems to have been influenced by
Zoroastrians------sorta

He stole from whatever he felt like would make him look good or justify his current actions. He was just making it all up as he went along; the Koran is just a load of disconnected, contradictory rubbish. It's not a religion, it's a violent political cult designed for bandits and murderers.

It is an amusing book ------you can follow the utter self-promoting of the disgusting pig

I find it a ridiculous collection of incoherent gibberish. Anybody who actually thinks it's a religious/philosophical text needs a psychiatrist.

 

[irosie91]

there is no question that islamists and catholics are NOT THE SAME------however the dogma supporting the Inquisition was VERY MUCH like the dogma supporting present day "jihad" ---
actually identical. Hernan Cortez pillaged and murdered the Aztecs for the same reason Isis took Baghdad and Mosul. Catholics gave up the Inquisition

Which Inquisition? Was Cortez a Pope? Which dogma was very much like the jihad? Jews conducted massacres against others, particularly Christians as well. By your apparent comparisons, do you consider Jews to be very much like Muslim jihadis?

Cortez was a catholic who functioned under the direction of the Spanish king and queen----Ferdinand and Isabella. Isabella was so ARDENT a catholic that she promoted the Inquisition. Jews never conducted massacres against Christians. An interesting factoid -----I have relatives who speak Spanish------they have not been in spain for 500 years -------they escaped YOUR FILTH --500 years ago. History is history----live with it.

 

[Picaro]

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)

• Maifreda da († 1300)

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy

• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

And where is your list of people killed by Islamists that covers the same period, from 1076 to 1721 so we can compare the two? You do want to be objective and serious in this discussion, right?

 

[irosie91]

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)

• Maifreda da († 1300)

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy

• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

And where is your list of people killed by Islamists that covers the same period, from 1076 to 1721 so we can compare the two? You do want to be objective and serious in this discussion, right?

you got a LIST OF PEOPLE who died of tuberculosis from the year 1000 to 2000 AD you fucking idiot?

 

[Picaro]

there is no question that islamists and catholics are NOT THE SAME------however the dogma supporting the Inquisition was VERY MUCH like the dogma supporting present day "jihad" ---
actually identical. Hernan Cortez pillaged and murdered the Aztecs for the same reason Isis took Baghdad and Mosul. Catholics gave up the Inquisition

Which Inquisition? Was Cortez a Pope? Which dogma was very much like the jihad? Jews conducted massacres against others, particularly Christians as well. By your apparent comparisons, do you consider Jews to be very much like Muslim jihadis?

Cortez was a catholic who functioned under the direction of the Spanish king and queen----Ferdinand and Isabella. Isabella was so ARDENT a catholic that she promoted the Inquisition.

The Spanish Inquisition wasn't the Roman Inquisition. Spain was an independent feudal kingdom, not ruled from Rome. Same for the Portuguese Inquisition. They were all separate; most people people think it was all one. The Roman Inquisition didn't execute anybody, especially after the Cathar scandals.

Jews never conducted massacres against Christians.

Of course they did, right up until the Muslim conquests started. The last two rulers of the last Jewish ruled kingdom in what is now the region of Yemen had monuments made to to celebrate the massacres of over 40,000 Christians.

An interesting factoid -----I have relatives who speak Spanish------they have not been in spain for 500 years -------they escaped YOUR FILTH --500 years ago. History is history----live with it.

Not interested in anecdotes. And indeed history is history.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Picaro]

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)

• Maifreda da († 1300)

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy

• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

And where is your list of people killed by Islamists that covers the same period, from 1076 to 1721 so we can compare the two? You do want to be objective and serious in this discussion, right?

you got a LIST OF PEOPLE who died of tuberculosis from the year 1000 to 2000 AD you fucking idiot?

You got a list of meds you need to be taking?

 

[irosie91]

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)

• Maifreda da († 1300)

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy

• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

And where is your list of people killed by Islamists that covers the same period, from 1076 to 1721 so we can compare the two? You do want to be objective and serious in this discussion, right?

you got a LIST OF PEOPLE who died of tuberculosis from the year 1000 to 2000 AD you fucking idiot?

You got a list of meds you need to be taking?

Norvasc for hypertension

 

[zaangalewa]

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

He was not a heretics. He was murdered.

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

He was murdered from a mob.

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)
• Maifreda da († 1300)

no information. Who is this?

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

no information.

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy
• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

no inforpitn

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

I found this video to be quite interesting.

hour and a half is not a video, it's a movie

aside from that, the differences are huge and it's laughable that anyone could makes serious links between the two

they set a man on fire for being the wrong muslim, they brutally murdered christians for being christians

From Wikipedia we get a "list of people burned as heretics" by the Catholics:

• Ramihrdus of Cambrai (1076 or 1077) (lynched)

• Peter of Bruys († 1130) (lynched)

• Gerard Segarelli († 1300)

• Maifreda da († 1300)

• Andrea Saramiti († 1300)

• Fra Dolcino († 1307) (never tried by Catholic Church), Italy

• Sister Margherita († 1307), Italy

• Brother Longino († 1307), Italy

• Marguerite Porete († 1310)

• Botulf Botulfsson († 1311), the only known heretic executed in Sweden

• Jacques de Molay (1243–1314), burned after conviction by a tribunal under the control of King Philip IV of France, France

• Geoffroi de Charney († 1314), burned with Jacques de Molay above, France.

• Guilhèm Belibasta († 1321), last Cathar

• Francesco da Pistoia († 1337)

• Lorenzo Gherardi († 1337)

• Bartolomeo Greco († 1337)

• Bartolomeo da Bucciano († 1337)

• Antonio Bevilacqua († 1337)

• William Sawtre († 1401)

• John Badby († 1410)

• Jan Hus (1371–1415), impenitent/unrepentant heretic

• Jerome of Prague (1365–1416), relapsed heretic

Joan of Arc at the stake, 1431

• St. Joan of Arc (1412–1431), relapsed heretic, Rouen, France
• Thomas Bagley († 1431)
• Pavel Kravař († 1433)
• Girolamo Savonarola († 1498)
• Joshua Weißöck (1488–1498)
• Jean Vallière († 1523)
• Hendrik Voes († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan van Essen († 1523), 1st martyr in the Seventeen Provinces
• Jan de Bakker († 1525), 1st martyr in the Northern Netherlands
• Wendelmoet Claesdochter († 1527), 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
• Michael Sattler († 1527)
• Patrick Hamilton († 1528), St Andrews, Scotland
• Balthasar Hubmaier (1485–1528), relapsed heretic
• George Blaurock (1491–1529)
• Hans Langegger († 1529)
• Giovanni Milanese († 1530)
• Richard Bayfield († 1531)
• James Bainham († 1532)
• John Frith (1503–1533), England
• William Tyndale (1490–1536)
• Jakob Hutter († 1536)
• Aefgen Listincx (d. 1538)
• Anneke Esaiasdochter (d. 1539)
• Francisco de San Roman († 1540)
• Giandomenico dell' Aquila († 1542)
• Maria van Beckum (d. 1544)
• Ursula van Beckum (d. 1544)
• George Wishart (1513–1546), St Andrews, Scotland

Rogers' execution at Smithfield, 1555

• John Rogers († 1555), London, England
• Canterbury Martyrs († 1555), England
• Laurence Saunders, (1519–1555), England
• Rowland Taylor († 1555), England
• John Hooper († 1555), England
• Robert Ferrar († 1555), Carmarthen, Wales
• Patrick Pakingham († 1555), Uxbridge, England
• Hugh Latimer (1485–1555), relapsed heretic, England
• Nicholas Ridley (1500–1555), England
• Bartolomeo Hector († 1555)
• Paolo Rappi († 1555)
• Vernon Giovanni († 1555)
• Labori Antonio († 1555)
• John Bradford († 1555), London, England
• Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556), relapsed heretic, England
• Stratford Martyrs († 1556), 11 men and 2 women, London, England
• Joan Waste (d. 1556), Derby, England
• Pomponio Algerio († 1556)
• Nicola Sartonio]] († 1557)
• Thomas von Imbroich († 1558) (beheaded)
• Fra Goffredo Varaglia († 1558)
• Gisberto di Milanuccio († 1558)
• Francesco Cartone († 1558)
• Antonio di Colella († 1559)
• Antonio Gesualdi († 1559)
• Giacomo Bonello († 1560)
• Mermetto Savoiardo († 1560)
• Dionigi di Cola († 1560)
• Gian Pascali di Cuneo († 1560)
• Bernardino Conte († 1560)
• Giorgio Olivetto († 1567)
• Luca di Faenza († 1568)
• Thomas Szük (1522–1568)
• Bartolomeo Bartoccio († 1569)
• Dirk Willems († 1569), Netherlands
• Fra Arnaldo di Santo Zeno († 1570)
• Alessandro di Giacomo († 1574)
• Benedetto Thomaria († 1574)
• Diego Lopez (martyr)|Diego Lopez († 1583)
• Gabriello Henriquez († 1583)
• Borro of Arezzo († 1583)
• Ludovico Moro († 1583)
• Pietro Benato († 1585)
• Francesco Gambonell († 1594)
• Marcantonio Valena († 1594)
• Giovanni Antonio da Verona († 1599)
• Fra Celestino († 1599)
• Giordano Bruno (1548–1600), Rome, Italy
• Maurizio Rinaldi († 1600)
• Bartolomeo Coppino († 1601)
• Kimpa Vita (1684–1706), Angola
• Maria Barbara Carillo (1625–1721), Madrid, Spain

The book "Acts and Monuments" by John Foxe, commonly known as Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more than this.
And I'll bet a great many of them were believers in Christ. No so laughable.

Not many people. Thought we killed since thousands of years every day millions of people worldwide continously just for fun - nevertheless I miss "Adolf Hitler (1889-1932), Munich, Germany" on this list. I heard a catholic bishop called him this time "the worst heretics the world ever had seen". But don't let me play now with the idea George W. Bush ... no no ... I should think about more worthful human beings not about criminals like him. What happened with Sister Megan Rice? Is she still arrested in the american system of injustice? Is she alive? What about the Veterans Greg Boertje-Obed and Michael Walli?

 

[irosie91]

what is "scroupelous" ????

 

[irosie91]

there is no question that islamists and catholics are NOT THE SAME------however the dogma supporting the Inquisition was VERY MUCH like the dogma supporting present day "jihad" ---
actually identical. Hernan Cortez pillaged and murdered the Aztecs for the same reason Isis took Baghdad and Mosul. Catholics gave up the Inquisition

Which Inquisition? Was Cortez a Pope? Which dogma was very much like the jihad? Jews conducted massacres against others, particularly Christians as well. By your apparent comparisons, do you consider Jews to be very much like Muslim jihadis?

Cortez was a catholic who functioned under the direction of the Spanish king and queen----Ferdinand and Isabella. Isabella was so ARDENT a catholic that she promoted the Inquisition.

The Spanish Inquisition wasn't the Roman Inquisition. Spain was an independent feudal kingdom, not ruled from Rome. Same for the Portuguese Inquisition. They were all separate; most people people think it was all one. The Roman Inquisition didn't execute anybody, especially after the Cathar scandals.

Jews never conducted massacres against Christians.

Of course they did, right up until the Muslim conquests started. The last two rulers of the last Jewish ruled kingdom in what is now the region of Yemen had monuments made to to celebrate the massacres of over 40,000 Christians.

An interesting factoid -----I have relatives who speak Spanish------they have not been in spain for 500 years -------they escaped YOUR FILTH --500 years ago. History is history----live with it.

Not interested in anecdotes. And indeed history is history.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

for the record-----Picaro lied There are no monuments celebrating a jewish massacre of Christians in Yemen ----and such a massacre never happened. Muslims invented this idea as an aspect of islamo Nazi shit propaganda. What really DID happen is MUZZIE SHIT accomplished a comprehensive genocide of Christians in both Arabia and Yemen------there are no Christian citizens in either of those shariah shit holes to this day ---comprehensive genocide --------BY THE PILE OF SHIT RAPIST PIG-----and his minions. Muslims have been doing HOLOCAUST DENIAL since the murderous career of the
chunk of shit-----muhummad and all islamo Nazi pigs endorse that filth

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

As to why it is believed that Khadija was a Catholic and how the Catholic influence came upon Muhammed comes from a story told by one Alberto Rivera (a former Jesuit Priest) in this video:

It's true. I have read everything Alberto Rivera has spoken about -including the books - other reading material - I also have other books on the subject of how the Vatican got away with such a deception - books by Avro Manhattan, Alexander Hislop, and others. There is no question in my mind that it's true. The Jesuits had access to far more than we did including a select few like Rivera (the highest ranking Jesuit ever to defect from the Romanists - he answered directly to the Black Pope - the Jesuit General) who actually read the accounts in the Vatican archives - he spent much time down there reading, reading, reading, he also learned a great deal from other Jesuits within who knew the real history behind Catholic Khadija and her Catholic cousin, the early on plan that was executed by Augustine on the continent of Africa - it was well laid out. It has always been about world domination and a one world order by the Vatican. Look at how they continue to inject the pope into the daily headlines of the internet day after day - it never stops. They are promoting him with everything they've got because the time is short and they know it. The latest news was is the Pope a protestant? Of course he isn't. But the Vatican and their Jesuits have changed up their game plan to "appear to be the same as Protestants" and are now calling Protestants who resist joining them "Fundamentalist Christians". So you see that the Jesuits are still at it. Behind the cloak of Islam they are waging a genocide against Jews and Christians just as they trained Mohammad to do. One day when we see the LORD all of these things will be revealed before us - to every person who ever lived upon the earth. It will be an Ah - ha moment because you'll wonder why you never saw it before. The Apostate Church - a heretic religion the antichrist is using called Catholicism. There can be absolutely no mistake about it. It isn't Islam. It's Catholicism.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

What about the idea that the catholics started the Islamic religion? Was Muhammed married to Khadija? Was she a catholic? Was her cousin Waraquah a catholic? Why do muslims hate Christians if the muslim prophet was married to a Christian? She was 40 when he was 25. Seems like she could influence him greatly. Some believe that the catholics created the Koran and set the muslim people against the Jews to try and take Jerusalem. Why is the Pope kissing the Koran which goes against the teachings of Christ?
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It's the Vatican inspired Master Plan for wiping out the Jews and Christians and taking Jerusalem for their own. Why wouldn't he be kissing the Koran? Islam is the Vatican's golden goose!

 

[RandomVariable]

Vatican declared Palestine a state last month. Are Catholics and Muslims the same? They are on the same side.

Of course, as mentioned in earlier posts, there is the institutions’ policies and then there are individual followers.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Making it simple:

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have be honest with you all. When I saw Bin Laden's face? I saw someone who had been totally deceived by his own religion. When I see the images of Hitler? I see the son of the Roman Catholic Empire who did the bidding of Rome's Vatican.

When I look at the images of this pope Francis? I see the most evil man who ever walked the face of this earth. A most dangerous man who is presented to the world as a lamb but in reality is the wolf that Satan has sent to deceive an unsuspecting world and devour the Protestants, the Jews and all who reject his message. His plan is a One World Order / One World Religion which he will rule. His plan is to take Jerusalem for his own headquarters. He'll do whatever it takes. He is pure evil.