Another victory for ADULT stem cells!

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    That is fantastic.
     
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    Perhaps this is one long stride toward making people realize that embryonic stem cell research is bogus. It has never saved a single, solitary life. Adult stem cells, which take away no life, have.
     
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    It's not bogus, it's just controversial and the current US policy has driven the research to other countries.
     
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    They've cured not one disease with embryonic stem cells; not in this or any country. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, have cured some 73 diseases. Trust me, it's bogus. There is no need to destroy embryos for something that doesn't work. Just another example of ideology running amok.
     
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    That's great news, KMAN!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/h...bl&ex=1227243600&en=21630a148c19f857&ei=5087

     
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    Yeah, so what? Yesterday you could have said they never successfully transplanted a human windpipe either. It's called scientific progress.

    Opponents brace for end of stem cell ban - USATODAY.com
     
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    There is absolutely no need to destroy human embryos to obtain their cells when you have iPS cells, which are, scientists say, identical to embryonic stem cells. There is no need. It's just another political ploy to keep Roe. untouched.

    Induced Pluripotent Stem Cells are believed to be identical to natural pluripotent stem cells, such as embryonic stem cells in many respects, such as the expression of certain stem cell genes and proteins, chromatin methylation patterns, doubling time, embryoid body formation, teratoma formation, viable chimera formation, and potency and differentiability, but the full extent of their relation to natural pluripotent stem cells is still being assessed.

    Induced pluripotent stem cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    NPR talk notwithstanding, there is no plausible reason to continue destroying human embryos when iPS cells are identical to embryonic stem cells, and have actually cured a disease.
     
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    I think that's great...IF the science actually ultimately determines there is nothing special about the potential of an embryonic cell that can't be found in other cells, BUT how do you think they discover these things? They NEED to research the embryonic cells and experiment! That's what science is.
     
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    Trust me, I'm quite aware of what science is. They played around with embryonic stem cells for years and nothing has come of it. Not a single cure. A lack of public funding in many ways obliged scientists to look at the alternatives, thus the discovery of iPS cells. Once injected with a virus, these adult stem cells essentially lose its DNA and become embryonic stem cells, ready to become whatever the scientist desires. To me, this is fantastic. We don't have to destroy life to save life. Not only that, but limitation encourages innovation. Imagine what other discoveries they can make if they get off this embryonic stem cell bit.
     

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