Another set of lies by Obama

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  1. RetiredGySgt
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    Obama wants honest health care debate - Yahoo! News

    I just love when the president lies through his teeth cause he thinks we are to stupid to know it.

    Remind us again Mr. President how you agreed with the Democrats in Congress on a "tax"/ Fine for anyone that does not get Health Insurance. Remind us again how you would force parents to have health insurance at YOUR levels and covering what YOU think is needed. Remind us again how the Government can run medicare so well it is going broke, but will somehow run health care for everyone better, cheaper and within a none growning budget that sucks the life out of this country.

    Lies indeed.
     
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    So stop giving him reasons to think you are stupid.
     
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    Couple of things that caught my attention:

    He doesn't "intend" for it to happen, but he doesn't say that it won't happen like he did for covering illegal aliens or paying for abortions.

    Liberals don't believe that... the more government control the happier they are.

    Immie
     
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    Normally I abhor the spelling police being a typo queen myself, but in this case it's a bit ironic, no?
     
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    I completely understand your point....but in this instance, I just couldn't help myself because of the poster's own words.
     
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    I know he said he coverage for children should be mandatory and automatic, but he spoke against fines for the uninsured during the debates (Clinton was the one who supported the possibility of penalties at that time). When did he say the opposite?
     
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    I always love when CON$ argue both sides of an issue.

    First they argue the public option will be more expensive because the gov does everything more expensive than the private sector.

    But then they argue the public option will be so inexpensive the private sector insurance will disappear because it will not be able to compete because the gov does not have to make a profit.

    So we have the CON$ arguing that gov run health care will be both cheaper and more expensive at the same time. :cuckoo:
     
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    Ed, my friend, I think you blew that one.

    First RGS was stating that liberals tell us that the government can run everything so well, but then he pointed out that they run Medicare so well that they have driven it to bankruptcy. He never said they ran it cheaper than private industry. In fact, he was stating quite the opposite. He stated that you guys are making the claim it would be run cheaper.

    And Rep Price didn't say anything at all about it being run cheaper or more expensive. He was talking about government control putting the private sector out of business.

    Could you read that again and maybe tell me if you see something different?

    Immie
     
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    You misunderstand the argument. They won't make their version cheaper they will through regulation make the private sector even more expensive while subsidizing the hell out of their version with tax payer dollars. Hell they've already done it. Though tort lawyers and state insurance commissions your health insurance covers things that only 1 person in 1,000 wil ever need.
     
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    Well that was exactly the point I was making, RGS was saying it would be more expensive if the gov ran it.

    And while Price didn't say it outright in that quote, the logic always given by the GOP for the public option forcing private insurance to go out of business was that the gov does NOT have to make a profit so they can always undercut the private sector which does, for the same provisions.

    So RGS was my example of the gov option being MORE expensive, and Price was my example of the gov option being LESS expensive.
     

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