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Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans' Bank Accounts
The New America ^ | 10/12/12 | Bob Adelmann
Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans? Bank Accounts
The latest executive order (EO) emanating from the White House October 9 now claims the power to freeze all bank accounts and stop any related financial transactions that a sanctioned person may own or try to perform all in the name of Iran Sanctions.
Titled an Executive Order from the President regarding Authorizing the Implementation of Certain Sanctions the order says that if an individual is declared by the president, the secretary of state, or the secretary of the treasury to be a sanctioned person, he (or she) will be unable to obtain access to his accounts, will be unable to process any loans (or make them), or move them to any other financial institution inside or outside the United States. In other words, his financial resources will have successfully been completely frozen. The EO expands its authority by making him unable to use any third party such as a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, subgroup or other organization that might wish to help him or allow him to obtain access to his funds.
And if the individual so sanctioned decides that the ruling is unfair, he isn't allowed to sue. In two words, the individual has successfully been robbed blind.
But its all very legal. The EO says the president has his vested authority to issue it, and then references endless previous EOs, including one dating back to 1995 which declared a state of emergency (which hasnt been lifted): Executive Order 12957.
EO 12957 was issued by President Bill Clinton on March 15, 1995, which was also obliquely related to the Iran problem:
I, William J. Clinton, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of the Government of Iran to constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security
I assume you are aware that the Constitution of the United States of America is a ten page document, in 12pt font, eight pages if you don't include the list of founding fathers at the end,
Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text.
Those just might have been the most brilliant eight pages ever written but I don't think it is enough to run our modern society.
Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans' Bank Accounts
The New America ^ | 10/12/12 | Bob Adelmann
Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans? Bank Accounts
The latest executive order (EO) emanating from the White House October 9 now claims the power to freeze all bank accounts and stop any related financial transactions that a sanctioned person may own or try to perform all in the name of Iran Sanctions.
Titled an Executive Order from the President regarding Authorizing the Implementation of Certain Sanctions the order says that if an individual is declared by the president, the secretary of state, or the secretary of the treasury to be a sanctioned person, he (or she) will be unable to obtain access to his accounts, will be unable to process any loans (or make them), or move them to any other financial institution inside or outside the United States. In other words, his financial resources will have successfully been completely frozen. The EO expands its authority by making him unable to use any third party such as a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, subgroup or other organization that might wish to help him or allow him to obtain access to his funds.
And if the individual so sanctioned decides that the ruling is unfair, he isn't allowed to sue. In two words, the individual has successfully been robbed blind.
But its all very legal. The EO says the president has his vested authority to issue it, and then references endless previous EOs, including one dating back to 1995 which declared a state of emergency (which hasnt been lifted): Executive Order 12957.
EO 12957 was issued by President Bill Clinton on March 15, 1995, which was also obliquely related to the Iran problem:
I, William J. Clinton, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of the Government of Iran to constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security
I suppose a link to the EO in question would be too much to ask?
Due process means that you can only be deprived of life, liberty or property AFTER due process, it doesn't mean that the government can take it and THEN you get due process.
Wanna bet? If stopped for speeding and the cop determines certain things meet the criteria of you being a drug dealer, you can be arrested and your property seized. And, I mean all of it...your cars, bank accounts, boats, personal possessions. Then, the arresting agency can sell every bit of it BEFORE YOU EVEN COME TO TRIAL AND BEFORE YOU ARE CONVICTED.
You get your "due process" AFTER you've been found innocent of the charges when you can sue for the VALUE of your stuff. Not the stuff itself as that's already gone, but just the value of it.
SO this is a thread complaining about the sanctions on Iran and blocking funding within this country?
You would complain too if he was doing nothing about Iran... Right?
SO this is a thread complaining about the sanctions on Iran and blocking funding within this country?
You would complain too if he was doing nothing about Iran... Right?
We either accept doing something about Iran ignoring the Constitution or we shut the fuck up. Got it.
Nobody has (yet) made a good case that the EO is Constitutionally defective.
Rule by Decree. What a sad mess our Nation has become. Is there any hope it will be rescued?
Nobody has (yet) made a good case that the EO is Constitutionally defective.
because it's not...
one really shouldn't confuse randian morons with the constitution.
Yep, the Iran sanctions are tough. Thank you, Mr. President. Beats the hell out of invading Iran.
Yep, the Iran sanctions are tough. Thank you, Mr. President. Beats the hell out of invading Iran.
It's funny how we're seeing the Cons are really pussies when it comes to foreign policy. They like to bark big threats like war or 'hunting down killers' but only President Obama has been able to due what W. failed to do.
Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans' Bank Accounts
The New America ^ | 10/12/12 | Bob Adelmann
Another Obama Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans? Bank Accounts
I suppose a link to the EO in question would be too much to ask?
I linked one of the laws referenced in the Exec Order.
Here's a link to the EO in question. Hyperlink: > 1,461 Days of The Obama Administration: Executive Order: Authorizing the Implementation of Certain Sanctions Set Forth in the Iran Threat Reduction and Syria Human Rights Act of 2012 and Additional Sanctions with respect to Iran
Section 1. (a) When the President, or the Secretary of State or the Secretary of the Treasury pursuant to authority delegated by the President and in accordance with the terms of such delegation, has determined that sanctions shall be imposed on a person pursuant to ISA, CISADA, or ITRSHRA and has, in accordance with those authorities, selected one or more of the sanctions set forth in section 6 of ISA to impose on that person,
IF only the dip shit infesting the Oval Office had been capable of grasping that, MAYBE he wouldn't have FAILED so spectacularly in protecting OUR embassy in Benghazi.