Yes, that is exactly what Obama's man Horowitz concluded, He was hesitant to say it in public, but the words of the report are clear.
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Yes, that is exactly what Obama's man Horowitz concluded, He was hesitant to say it in public, but the words of the report are clear.
Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:abuse of power is a very generalized term, it could mean almost anything. The lying dems didn't include anything specific because they have no evidence of specific crimes.
your heroine Pelosi admitted last week that this impeachment charade was not based on the Ukraine stuff but that it had been going on for 2 1/2 years.
Its total bullshit and the senate will end it and make the dems in the house look like the fools that they are.
At least two house dems have already announced that they are changing parties because of this criminal effort to overturn the will of the people.
They were very specific. You haven't read diddly.
Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:
Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage.
President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit.
In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:
(1) President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into—
(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and
(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine—rather than Russia—interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.
(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—conditioned two official acts on the public announcements that he had requested—
(A) the release of $391 million of United States taxpayer funds that Congress had appropriated on a bipartisan basis for the purpose of providing vital military and security assistance to Ukraine to oppose Russian aggression and which President Trump had ordered suspended; and
(B) a head of state meeting at the White House, which the President of Ukraine sought to demonstrate continued United States support for the Government of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.
(3) Faced with the public revelation of his actions, President Trump ultimately released the military and security assistance to the Government of Ukraine, but has persisted in openly and corruptly urging and soliciting Ukraine to undertake investigations for his personal political benefit.
These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in United States elections.
In all of this, President Trump abused the powers of the Presidency by ignoring and injuring national security and other vital national interests to obtain an improper personal political benefit. He has also betrayed the Nation by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections.
Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:abuse of power is a very generalized term, it could mean almost anything. The lying dems didn't include anything specific because they have no evidence of specific crimes.
your heroine Pelosi admitted last week that this impeachment charade was not based on the Ukraine stuff but that it had been going on for 2 1/2 years.
Its total bullshit and the senate will end it and make the dems in the house look like the fools that they are.
At least two house dems have already announced that they are changing parties because of this criminal effort to overturn the will of the people.
They were very specific. You haven't read diddly.
Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:
Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage.
President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit.
In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:
(1) President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into—
(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and
(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine—rather than Russia—interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.
(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—conditioned two official acts on the public announcements that he had requested—
(A) the release of $391 million of United States taxpayer funds that Congress had appropriated on a bipartisan basis for the purpose of providing vital military and security assistance to Ukraine to oppose Russian aggression and which President Trump had ordered suspended; and
(B) a head of state meeting at the White House, which the President of Ukraine sought to demonstrate continued United States support for the Government of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.
(3) Faced with the public revelation of his actions, President Trump ultimately released the military and security assistance to the Government of Ukraine, but has persisted in openly and corruptly urging and soliciting Ukraine to undertake investigations for his personal political benefit.
These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in United States elections.
In all of this, President Trump abused the powers of the Presidency by ignoring and injuring national security and other vital national interests to obtain an improper personal political benefit. He has also betrayed the Nation by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections.
Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
Oh, you left the best part out:The Corrupt FBI deliberately concealed from the FISA Court, Joseph Mifsud’s denials to the FBI that he supplied Papadopoulos with the information Papadopoulos shared with the FFG suggesting that the campaign received an offer or suggestion of assistance from Russia.
Crossfire Hurricane was opened on the The Old "Suggestion of a Suggestion" ehh?
With the Presumption that the FBI will be staffed with folks the highest moral fiber who conduct themselves in a manner that is beyond reproach, they are granted a very low threshold by the American People to open investigations. As Horowitz pointed out, they COULD open the investigation.
As Barr and Durham are seeking information, they are zeroing in on whether folks of the highest moral fiber, acting in a manner that is beyond approach SHOULD have opened this investigation. That is, Barr/Durham and Horowitz are answering slightly different questions and they are all correct. It was LEGAL, it wasn't ETHICAL.
Jonathon Turley takes it a step deeper. As he points out, the Titanic had a GREAT reason for STARTING it's voyage, it got into trouble when it failed to correctly respond as it began to encounter icebergs.
Horowitz reports that ALL the information they obtained was exculpatory of Trump Russia Collusion, and NONE was incriminating, yet ALL the exculpatory information was deliberately concealed by the Corrupt FBI from the FISA Court. The entire case had collapsed before the election occurred, yet, they drug in the disreputable Steele, lied their asses off about him to the Court, and used his unverified uncorroborated, Hillary Clinton purchased slander to spy on the Campaign Team, Transition and even The Administration for a full year!
It's stunning that you defend these gross violations of our human rights by the thoroughly corrupt Obama Administration.
The spies the Corrupt FBI sent to try to entrap Trump campaign folks, Just what the hell does "consensually monitored and recorded" mean?... However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”...
Are you claiming that they were informed that were being spied on by the FBI and "consented" to it?
Yup. They COULD, as Horowitz confirmed; whether they SHOULD is what Barr and Durham are going to report on.Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:They were very specific. You haven't read diddly.
Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:
Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage.
President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit.
In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:
(1) President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into—
(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and
(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine—rather than Russia—interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.
(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—conditioned two official acts on the public announcements that he had requested—
(A) the release of $391 million of United States taxpayer funds that Congress had appropriated on a bipartisan basis for the purpose of providing vital military and security assistance to Ukraine to oppose Russian aggression and which President Trump had ordered suspended; and
(B) a head of state meeting at the White House, which the President of Ukraine sought to demonstrate continued United States support for the Government of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.
(3) Faced with the public revelation of his actions, President Trump ultimately released the military and security assistance to the Government of Ukraine, but has persisted in openly and corruptly urging and soliciting Ukraine to undertake investigations for his personal political benefit.
These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in United States elections.
In all of this, President Trump abused the powers of the Presidency by ignoring and injuring national security and other vital national interests to obtain an improper personal political benefit. He has also betrayed the Nation by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections.
Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Further, as Jonathon Turley points out, it's not that the Titanic started the voyage that got them into trouble, it's what they did after they began to encounter icebergs, and this fake and phony investigation started hitting iceberg immediately. ALL the information they were able to verify were exculpatory of Trump and they were never able to find ANY incriminating information. The entire case had collapsed before the election, yet, here we are, during the holdiay season with the Democrats going through the motions of a election year stunt to try to weaken the President who they know will be the quite formidable GOP 2020 nominee.
Wonders why Democrats can't just accept the election results and enjoy our tremendous and unexpected prosperity here during the holiday season.
Horowitz put their complete corruption and lawlessness as nicely and gently as it could possibly be stated.There was Abuse of Power:No lying fishy. These are facts. Trump did those things. He admitted it. Mulvany admitted it. Try actually arguing facts, not conspiracy theories.
Abuse of power is the first article, moron.
abuse of power is a very generalized term, it could mean almost anything. The lying dems didn't include anything specific because they have no evidence of specific crimes.
your heroine Pelosi admitted last week that this impeachment charade was not based on the Ukraine stuff but that it had been going on for 2 1/2 years.
Its total bullshit and the senate will end it and make the dems in the house look like the fools that they are.
At least two house dems have already announced that they are changing parties because of this criminal effort to overturn the will of the people.
They were very specific. You haven't read diddly.
Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:
Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage.
President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit.
In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:
(1) President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into—
(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and
(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine—rather than Russia—interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.
(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—conditioned two official acts on the public announcements that he had requested—
(A) the release of $391 million of United States taxpayer funds that Congress had appropriated on a bipartisan basis for the purpose of providing vital military and security assistance to Ukraine to oppose Russian aggression and which President Trump had ordered suspended; and
(B) a head of state meeting at the White House, which the President of Ukraine sought to demonstrate continued United States support for the Government of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.
(3) Faced with the public revelation of his actions, President Trump ultimately released the military and security assistance to the Government of Ukraine, but has persisted in openly and corruptly urging and soliciting Ukraine to undertake investigations for his personal political benefit.
These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in United States elections.
In all of this, President Trump abused the powers of the Presidency by ignoring and injuring national security and other vital national interests to obtain an improper personal political benefit. He has also betrayed the Nation by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections.
Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
Yes, that is exactly what Obama's man Horowitz concluded, He was hesitant to say it in public, but the words of the report are clear.
Why not when a messenger is a provocateur of fake news?Another liberal shooting the messenger.Well if theepochtimes.com says it, it must be true, right?Should we believe the OP, or people in the know?
<<...Obama ‘Must Have Known’ About Spying...>>>
Trump Says Obama 'Must Have Known' About Spying on His Campaign
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Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
Oh, the old unnamed "associates of" ehhh?Of course he knew. Counter Intelligence Investigations are conducted to inform The President. In the Stzok Page Texts they say that Obama wanted to know everything they were doing.Should we believe the OP, or people in the know?
<<...Obama ‘Must Have Known’ About Spying...>>>
Trump Says Obama 'Must Have Known' About Spying on His Campaign
The associates of Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page said that exchange referred to the president’s wanting information on Russia election meddling, which the FBI was heavily involved in over that period. That exchange occurred just days before Mr. Obama met Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China. Mr. Obama said in December 2016 that he had addressed the issue of tampering with the election process with Mr. Putin at that September meeting.
Text From 2016 Shows Obama’s Interest in FBI Employees’ Work
What's wrong with the old Fake News Favorite: Unnamed "Former and Current WH intelligence officials" followed by 3.5 years of complete lies?
Further, Counter Intelligence Investigations are undertaken FOR the President, that is their purpose. The President when these Agencies went Rogue, illegally spying on Obama's watch, occurred while Obama was President.
Wow did my irony meter ever peg. You and the GOP are running around citing a debunked Russian conspiracy theory, but because an unnamed source says we landed on the moon, it has you doubting the moon landing.
There was no illegal spying. The IG report, you all touted for months, says so.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:They were very specific. You haven't read diddly.
Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:
Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage.
President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit.
In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:
(1) President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into—
(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and
(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine—rather than Russia—interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.
(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump—acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government—conditioned two official acts on the public announcements that he had requested—
(A) the release of $391 million of United States taxpayer funds that Congress had appropriated on a bipartisan basis for the purpose of providing vital military and security assistance to Ukraine to oppose Russian aggression and which President Trump had ordered suspended; and
(B) a head of state meeting at the White House, which the President of Ukraine sought to demonstrate continued United States support for the Government of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.
(3) Faced with the public revelation of his actions, President Trump ultimately released the military and security assistance to the Government of Ukraine, but has persisted in openly and corruptly urging and soliciting Ukraine to undertake investigations for his personal political benefit.
These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in United States elections.
In all of this, President Trump abused the powers of the Presidency by ignoring and injuring national security and other vital national interests to obtain an improper personal political benefit. He has also betrayed the Nation by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections.
Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
- Banned
- #1,489
It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
The real purpose of Homeland Security
1. to off any American noticing too much truth
2. to be weaponized against any candidate not totally controlled by the ISRAEL LOBBY
3. to make stuff up when needed for hate hoaxes and impeachments
Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
- Banned
- #1,491
it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine
It has been since 1998 or earlier, and was during J Edgar Hoover......
"we MUST convince the American people that it was just one shooter" Hoover on JFK....
Doubt the moon landing? You are engaging in complete fabrication. I have never doubted the moon landing.Oh, the old unnamed "associates of" ehhh?Of course he knew. Counter Intelligence Investigations are conducted to inform The President. In the Stzok Page Texts they say that Obama wanted to know everything they were doing.Should we believe the OP, or people in the know?
<<...Obama ‘Must Have Known’ About Spying...>>>
Trump Says Obama 'Must Have Known' About Spying on His Campaign
The associates of Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page said that exchange referred to the president’s wanting information on Russia election meddling, which the FBI was heavily involved in over that period. That exchange occurred just days before Mr. Obama met Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China. Mr. Obama said in December 2016 that he had addressed the issue of tampering with the election process with Mr. Putin at that September meeting.
Text From 2016 Shows Obama’s Interest in FBI Employees’ Work
What's wrong with the old Fake News Favorite: Unnamed "Former and Current WH intelligence officials" followed by 3.5 years of complete lies?
Further, Counter Intelligence Investigations are undertaken FOR the President, that is their purpose. The President when these Agencies went Rogue, illegally spying on Obama's watch, occurred while Obama was President.
Wow did my irony meter ever peg. You and the GOP are running around citing a debunked Russian conspiracy theory, but because an unnamed source says we landed on the moon, it has you doubting the moon landing....
When you lie to the court and forge documents in the spy application, the spying that results is illegal....There was no illegal spying...
Illegal acts and forgeries are not suddenly laundered into legality because you managed to fool a judge into granting spy approval. It's really sad that you are defending these horrific acts by the FBI. Forging a document to reverse the meaning on a key point? It is beyond terrible that the corrupt FBI did that. As that settles into the American Electorate, it's nearly unbelievable, but there it is, in Horowitz' report, and Horowitz has done a tremendous job maintaining his credibility. The Corrupt FBI could learn a thing or two from Horowitz. He has done this nation a great service, as will Durham, who has the prosecutorial tools that Horowitz lacks.
Deeply disturbed that the FBI would do such a terrible thing as forging documents that they submit to the Court in order to obtain spying authority on a Political campaign. This that they did to Trump, we don't want them to EVER do something like that to any other American.
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Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
I say again...if the rules for FISA warrants get revamped because of this, great. Never would have happened otherwise.Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
The fact that they are not supposed to lie, forge documents and hide exculpatory evidence isn't going to change.I say again...if the rules for FISA warrants get revamped because of this, great. Never would have happened otherwise.Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
lennypartiv
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Once it became clear the IG report was blatantly inaccurate, it never should have been released.There was no illegal spying. The IG report, you all touted for months, says so.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
The fact that they are not supposed to lie, forge documents and hide exculpatory evidence isn't going to change.I say again...if the rules for FISA warrants get revamped because of this, great. Never would have happened otherwise.Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
And, once again, that is not what the IG report concluded. You're left with nothing but Deep State nonsense.
Actually it is:The fact that they are not supposed to lie, forge documents and hide exculpatory evidence isn't going to change.I say again...if the rules for FISA warrants get revamped because of this, great. Never would have happened otherwise.Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
And, once again, that is not what the IG report concluded. You're left with nothing but Deep State nonsense.
Everything Schiff Said about Steele Was Also False
Another fabricated theme in Schiff’s “Correcting the Record” memorandum concerned the Steele dossier. The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016, chiefly his suspected July 2016 meeting in Moscow with Russian officials,” Schiff claimed.
But as the IG report made clear, the Steele dossier made the FISA case. Prior to receiving the dossier, the FBI had consulted the various offices charged with determining the propriety of a FISA warrant. At that point, they “determined that more information was needed to support probable cause that Page was an agent of a foreign power.”
Receipt of the Steele dossier changed everything: “Immediately after the Crossfire Hurricane team received Steele’s election reporting,” the IG report explained, the team “reinitiated” its attempt to obtain a FISA surveillance order, and ultimately obtained the first order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) on October 21. Or, as the IG put it, Steele’s election reporting “played a central and essential role in the FBI’s and Department’s decision to seek the FISA order.”
IG Report Proves Schiff Has Been Lying About Spygate Since Beginning
Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:There was Abuse of Power:
The Corrupt FBI abused it's power to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.
The Venal Mueller abused his power to conduct an "investigation" of Trump Russian Collusion when he knew there was no evidence to support it, and he stretched it out for 2 and half years.
The Corrupt Schiff colluded with the "Whistle Blower".
The Corrupt House Leadership is abusing it's impeachment authority.
So yes, there is a LOT of abuse of authority going on out there.
That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
wrong again, Trump has consistently said that the investigation was improper and not based on facts, or on made up facts. The IG report confirmed that. Sorry, you libs lose again
That the corrupt FBI was caught red-handed forging "evidence" and submitting it to FISC kinda gives the whole game away.Horowitz Reported 17 acts of misconduct misleading where the Corrupt FBI misled the FISA Court in order to illegally spy on Trump:That isn’t what the IG report concluded.
I cover the first above: They hid the fact that Carter Page was an approved source FOR the CIA reporting on the Russians to assist The National Security of the United States. Naturally, this required interactions with Russian Intelligence, which they had been repeatedly informed, in writing, by Brennan. They even inserted wording to those warning, to reverse the meaning, and used it in the FISA submission!
The Second was they LIED about how reliable a source Steele was.
Now for the 3rd of 17 swindles perpetuated on The Court by The Corrupt FBI:
Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who, as previously noted, was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the application), namely that (1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a “boaster” and an “egoist” and “may engage in some embellishment” and (2) [redacted]So Steele himself told The Corrupt FBI that his own source, and Source ONE, no less, had serious credibility issues. Naturally they the Corrupt FBI hid this from the Court, had they told the truth, they wouldn't have been authorized to illegally spy on a US Presidential Campaign.
IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page
Nope.
IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”
IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.
After the FBI opened an investigation in late July 2016, the FBI used four confidential human sources and “a few” undercover employees that “resulted in interactions with Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation.”
However, the report said the interactions between the Trump campaign aides and the FBI’s confidential sources “received the necessary FBI approvals” and were “consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI.”
Lastly, the report said it learned that the FBI had “several other” confidential sources “with either a connection to candidate Trump or a role in the Trump campaign.” But they “were not tasked as part of the” investigation.
One such FBI source who “knew candidate Trump” gave the FBI “general information” about Page that was already publicly available. “We found no evidence that any members of the Crossfire Hurricane team ever suggested inserting this [confidential human source] into the Trump campaign to gather investigative information,” the report said.
Another FBI source “held a position in the Trump campaign,” but did not tell the FBI about his or her role until after leaving the campaign.
IG report: We concluded that Priestap’s exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision. We similarly found that, while the formal documentation opening each of the four individual investigations was approved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the decisions to do so were reached by a consensus among the Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently traveled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia.
IG report: We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an “authorized purpose,” namely “to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence.” We also determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity, the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.
all of that simply says that the OPENING of the investigation was proper. thats all it says
Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
wrong again, Trump has consistently said that the investigation was improper and not based on facts, or on made up facts. The IG report confirmed that. Sorry, you libs lose again
3.5 years of a blizzard of lies and their lying propaganda organs, the Fake News Media, all soon coming to an inglorious end at the hands of the US Senate.
Newly Released Eric Holder Memo: Feds Can Use FISA to Spy on Journalists.
Tired of all the fighting by Democrats who refuse to accept the election results. Democrats need to stop defending illegal spying and just enjoy our unexpected prosperity this holiday season while the Santa Claus Rally Rings in the Election Year!
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
Actually it is:The fact that they are not supposed to lie, forge documents and hide exculpatory evidence isn't going to change.I say again...if the rules for FISA warrants get revamped because of this, great. Never would have happened otherwise.Our FISA regulations didn't anticipate a thoroughly corrupt FBI lying to and concealing evidence from the Court. What Comey etal have shown is that the FISA court is powerless to protect our civil liberties in the face of a Venal FBI willing to lie, conceal and withhold.Which is in direct contrast to what Crooked Donnie kept saying over and over and over.
The FISA court is going to get an overhaul. Good. It’s needed one since 9/11 and the bullshit “patriot act”.
These are exparte proceedings, that is, they are secret. Most people that are spied on, never know it, and they expected Hillary to win, meaning that no one was ever going to know about this.
As casually as Comey is responding to this, it appears this level of dishonesty by the FBI is routine.
Would like to see the FBI staffed only with those of the highest integrity, moral character, and known for exercising the soundest of judgment.
And, once again, that is not what the IG report concluded. You're left with nothing but Deep State nonsense.
Everything Schiff Said about Steele Was Also False
Another fabricated theme in Schiff’s “Correcting the Record” memorandum concerned the Steele dossier. The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016, chiefly his suspected July 2016 meeting in Moscow with Russian officials,” Schiff claimed.
But as the IG report made clear, the Steele dossier made the FISA case. Prior to receiving the dossier, the FBI had consulted the various offices charged with determining the propriety of a FISA warrant. At that point, they “determined that more information was needed to support probable cause that Page was an agent of a foreign power.”
Receipt of the Steele dossier changed everything: “Immediately after the Crossfire Hurricane team received Steele’s election reporting,” the IG report explained, the team “reinitiated” its attempt to obtain a FISA surveillance order, and ultimately obtained the first order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) on October 21. Or, as the IG put it, Steele’s election reporting “played a central and essential role in the FBI’s and Department’s decision to seek the FISA order.”
IG Report Proves Schiff Has Been Lying About Spygate Since Beginning
You keep harping on the one thing only dealing with one guy (who is a known Russian stooge).
But ignoring that Trump was wrong about everything. Not a witch hunt. Not started because of the Steele memos. Not partisan and completely justified.
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