Another interesting quote to discuss

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    What do you think of this? I think there is great wisdom here.
     
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    Good one.

    Another:
    As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
    To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." U.S. Treasury - Fact Sheet on the History of the U.S. Tax System


    And a good discussion, as well, would be how and when we left this path...
     
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    Oh God... don't let the Collectivists read this...
     
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    Just did. Sorry:)
     
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    I think we all too often get bogged down in how best to help people, and more to the point, what the real problem is. When I see someone who is "poor" let's say, I do not see lack of money as the real problem. Yes, it is the immediate issue, but only a symptom of the real problem which, in my opinion, is their inability to properly sustain themselves. Yes, we can give them $10 and yes they will eat.. today. But, the problem has not been solved. I guess it gets back to basics... give a man a fish, feed him for the day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life.

    Just my take on things...
     
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    As long as that check comes in the mail like clockwork what's the point of going out and looking for work. I remember back in the day hearing a family member or two discussing the fact they needed to go out at least once a week and apply for work somewhere and show some kind of proof that they did.They did this or the benefit stopped.I know times are different and there's only one job available for 100 million people or so the Dems will have you believe.Do people have to go to a training center at least to learn another skill,are people on their own going to libraries to maybe learn or at least get familiar with other employment opportunities.

    I saw a story on TV the other day about a few people who started a business working out of a van on school grounds.The students being banned from bringing their cell phones now smart phones into school handed over their phones before class to these guys who charged them a $1.00 a phone for the day to store them until class was over.They must have pulled in $100.00 a day at least maybe more for a little labor and some ingenuity.

    So there are opportunities out there people just need some motivation,encouragement and some direction to get going.I just don't think handing over a check week after week is the only answer.
     
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    when 5% of the population own all the land
    and MOST of the businesses
    and they decide to eliminate jobs (in great part thanks to automation, computers and robotics)
    so that they can keep MORE and MORE of the $ for themselves

    just exactly how are "the poor" to work and provide for themselves?
     
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    Sorry common sense has died .
     
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    Of course... but as you noted, too many have been lulled into thinking otherwise. Read what is posted on this board by many. It is all doom and gloom. Why bother? Why try? The evil rich have stolen everything. We just need to take it all back from them and all will be good.

    It's very depressing. I can only hope that it is attributable to youth and naiveté. Unfortunately, I think some of these people are not kids.
     
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    See? Speak of the victim and he shows up right on queue. Timing is everything I guess.
     

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