Another GOP Flip-Flop on Health Care

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    After months and months of complaining about the length of the bill:
    Republicans Attack Size of House Health Care Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
    Poe speaks to chamber on health care reform - Monday, August 24, 2009 - Copyright 2007 Ourtribune.com

    Republicans are now bitching that the health care bill is not long enough:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj58vKN1m3g[/ame]

    "And we talk about 2,074 pages, which seem like a lot, and it would be for a normal bill that you could debate in a limited period of time, which is what we’re being asked to do. But 2,074 pages isn’t nearly enough to cover health care for America. So why is it only 2,074 pages?"
     
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    That's the goofy GOP for ya.
     
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    Why do Democrats care about what Republicans have to say, don't they still have a majority?

    What does Sen Franken have to say about this?
     
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    They have the functional majority in the Senate.
     
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    Republican lobbyists must want to insert something else in it.
     
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    Number of pages is another smoke screen.

    This is about big government control.

    It has been documented that the United States has the best healthcare in the world, as judged by life expectancy.

    Here are the solutions to any complaints:

    Short and Sweet: Keep the government out of healthcare, except for legislation that accomplished the following:
    1. Allow the 1300 companies to sell in every state.
    2. Tort reform limiting damages to actual costs.
    3. No state mandates: buy what coverage you wish.
    4. Use the tax system to incentivize more into the medical field.
    5. Encourage more to buy their own health insurance with tax deductibility.
    6. Government step aside.
     
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    You know, you'd be taken a lot more seriously if you didn't make claims that were just so obviously false. You claim that Americans have the longest life expectancy in the world, and yet, not only are we not first, we're not in the top 10, top 20, or top 40. We're 50th, sitting right below Portugal and right above Albania.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html




    Health care is going to become better if we reduce the quality of health insurance to that which would be seen in a third world country (which is exactly what the GOP proposal for sale across state lines does) and if we place caps on damages that can be collected in event of malpractice, even though previous caps have not been effective at reducing cost and that eliminating malpractice all together would only represent two percent of total health care costs.
     
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    If we could keep doctors from moving into politics we would be better off with healthcare.
     
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    But the Democrats still have a majority, right?

    I mean it seems the battle is on the Left between the Neo-Marxists, the Eugenicists and the Old School Socialists
     
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    I guess you must be right, the cons do not count at all.
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