2aguy
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Assuming I disagreed with any of that; we’d still have the most gun deaths of any developed nation. Thanks for confirming what I said though; we have the most guns and the most violence. I wonder what the prize is?Actually Candy the stats prove exactly the opposite of what you just claimed they do. We have FAR more legally owned guns at this time that any time in our history, and yet gun violence is actually at historic lows nation wide.
Oh yeah, almost predictable rampage killings.
After notching 30K gun deaths over and over and prescribing nothing except thoughts and prayers…it may be time to try something different than breaking out the hymnals. I’m for mandatory minimums and locking up criminals for a long, long time. Another law on the books helps.Cities with draconian gun laws that actually violate the COTUS while at the same time having higher than average gun crime rates PROVE conclusively that doing away with the 2nd Amendment would not reduce gun crime. Because crimnals do not care if they have a right to own a gun or not.
I was answering the question. There are probably other answers that were better. One benefit is that violating gun registry laws enhances the sentence.I am not sure what part of this you are not getting, it is already illegal to murder people. Taking away the 2nd Amendment isn't going to make someone who is intent on murder say 'oops I don't have a right to own a gun, guess I'll let this person live"
Imagine if I proposed to you "If we did away with the first Amendment, that would solve the issue of people calling each other names, we'll just make it illegal to do so"
I would imagine your response would be to laugh at me. I would HOPE it would be.
hilarious.
Our violence has nothing to do with gun ownership....as was pointed out by me and DandyDonovan, as more Americans not only own guns, but carry them, our gun crime rate did not go up, it went down, our gun murder rate did not go up, it went down...so you have no point that is accurate.....
And there you go...mixing suicide up in gun murder to get the 30,000 gun deaths a year...showing that you are not going to debate this honestly since guns have nothing to do with suicide...as you have been shown over and over again, from research, and from actual statistics on suicide from countries with extreme gun control...so, honest discussion isn't what you are interested in since the facts, the reality and the truth do not support anything you believe about guns in this country....
I was answering the question. There are probably other answers that were better. One benefit is that violating gun registry laws enhances the sentence.
And you are wrong on this too......criminals, felons, caught with illegal guns cannot be prosecuted for not registering their illegal guns....the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Haynes v United States......states that a felon does not have to register an illegal gun because that would violate their 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination....
There is no reason to register guns...none. The only reason to do it is to know which law abiding citizens have them so when the anti gunners have power, they can confiscate them....that is the only reason.
Your paranoia is hilarious.
What paranoia? Oregon, New York, California....have all enacted laws that make it illegal to own various makes and models of gun....in particular the unconstitutional ban on scary looking rifles..... Britain, Germany, France, Australia.....have all enacted gun confiscation.....