And so it begins

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    Carter Decries Fla. Election Conditions

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    WASHINGTON - Former President Jimmy Carter says that despite changes designed to eliminate voting problems in Florida — where the disputed 2000 presidential election was decided by only a few hundred votes — conditions for a fair election in that state still don't exist.

    "The disturbing fact is that a repetition of the problems of 2000 now seems likely," Carter wrote in an opinion piece published Monday in the Washington Post.

    Touchscreen machines were introduced in Florida after the 2000 election, when punch-cards were responsible for delaying the outcome of the race between George Bush (news - web sites) and Al Gore (news - web sites). Bush won the state by 537 votes, which gave him the presidency.

    Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens.

    He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris (news - web sites), was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment."

    "With reforms unlikely at this late stage of the election, perhaps the only recourse will be to focus maximum public scrutiny on the suspicious process in Florida," the Democrat said.

    A Hood spokeswoman, Alia Faraj, said Monday she was "disappointed that a statesman like former President Carter would submit such a letter" to the newspaper "without even reaching out to the Florida secretary of state" for comment.

    She said Florida "leads the nation in election reform and we have had successful elections since the new systems were put in place in 2002 and in hundreds of elections since then" and that Hood "leads the agency in a nonpartisan manner."


    It would seem that you have to get the grounds for contesting the election results in early this year. It would seem to me that if Florida cannot hold fair elections, why, then any election result from Florida should be dismissed. Therefore, why let anyone from Florida vote in the first place? Sarcasm, folks...sarcasm.
     
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    It bothers me how otherwise intelligent people can proclaim there was anything 'wrong' or there was some sort of 'conspiracy' in the last election.



    Note my sig - So the (republican) gov't of Florida threw out some votes - those votes of FELLONS...some of whom were black. What does the DNC do? They tell the media 'The republicans threw out the votes of BLACK PEOPLE!!!'

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    (sigh).
     
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    That whole situation (recount, dangling chads, etc.) stunk worse than a Newfoundlander's secret cache of codfish tongue! The fact that some are gearing up to create the same kind of mess just makes me angry.
     
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    I was going to say something using the "old fool" saying, but realized that was inappropriate.

    Carter is merely an old whore.
     
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    shhhhhhhhh they haven't discovered our secret plan to steal California this time. Get with the ballgame Jimmy--damn your slow!!!
     
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    Richard Nixon felt that he could have made a solid case for ballot tampering in Illinois in 1960. He declined to do so, fearing that the resulting scandal would tear the country apart.

    What a difference a generation - and a political party - make. Screw "the good of the country". This is about a blind, and increasingly desperate, quest for power.
     
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    And that good ole Bible thumpin Carter is going to help em---shame !
     
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    I used to give Carter a bit of a pass - considering him a hapless dupe - but no more. He loves the awards and the adulation that liberal socialists heap upon him; flattery has addled the few brains he had to begin with. He's as bad as the rest of them.
     

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