Procrustes Stretched
"intuition and imagination and intelligence"
That was local laws and perversion of the constitution. Also. yes some of the FF were slaveholders, and color did matter. Guess what do we throw away all thier other more nifty ideas because of that?
Different age, different morals. In the end the consitutuon and the 13th and 14th amendments weathered the Jim Crow law era and were enforced as they were meant to be in the 50s and 60s.
I understand, but the FF kept slavery as it was. The Constitution allowed it and encoded it. We had to amend the Constitution to correct the shit the FF allowed.
I do not play that silly game most do about the FF, but I like my history raw. I can take the bitter with the sweet. Ia am a liberal and therefore unlike conservative nitwits I do not feel personally attacked when ideas and 'great' men I admire get attacked.
Local laws? There were SCOTUS decisions that upheld those local laws.
History spun by some has a way of revising itself.
And SCOTUS decisons overturned the ones previously made. The process is ever evolving. The issue in plessy is that the SCOTUS at the time overrode the intnet of the consitutional amendment for the current politics at the time. This was corrected in later courts.
You mistake where I am coming from. Why?
I did not say we in America have not evolved. What I originally stated was (and it has a context)...
I'm pretty confident that the Constitution doesn't prevent Muslims from bearing arms. A religion has no more bearing on ones Americanism than color does.
that's not what White Southerners during the LBJ years, and the Founding Fathers thought.
I merely pointed out that color did have had a bearing on ones Americanism as far as the FF were concerned.
you responded with (among a few other things):
yes some of the FF were slaveholders, and color did matter. Guess what do we throw away all thier other more nifty ideas because of that?
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Where you got the weird idea that I had said something that would condemn all that the FF proposed is only something you can say. It obviously is not to be found in anything I posted up to then.
I then ask you to stop playing silly games.
I am usually quick to chop off a head by this time in a thread. I don't suffer fools gladly or easily.
please, stop being a fool?