Alternative to the Electoral College

[TheDude]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

 

[TNHarley]

We don't need an alternative.

 

[Pogo]

NONE of the above. Land masses --- counties --- states ---- districts ---- these are all arbitrary and pointless boxes to put people in so you don't have to look at who they are. All equally bullshitious. And in the case of Districts, easily engineered into entities that behave in predictable way that one can exploit. We call that 'gerrymandering'.

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. L

Complete bullshit strawman. Nobody anywhere called for changing the rules retroactively. I myself have been on this case for months continuously, and for years before that. But you can't deal with that perspective so you want to invent positions you wish others had taken. But they didn't. Reality doesn't work that way Chuckles.

Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run.

Actually lost in bullshit memes you can't explain.

We've done these points all to death. Over seven hundred posts in the main one, and no one has yet been able to justify or demonstrate that particular line of bullshit.

 

[Pogo]

We don't need an alternative.

We do, but the OP hasn't presented any, and apparently is not in possession of sufficient creative juices to do so.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

NONE of the above. Land masses --- counties --- states ---- districts ---- these are all arbitrary and pointless boxes to put people in so you don't have to look at who they are. All equally bullshitious. And in the case of Districts, easily engineered into entities that behave in predictable way that one can exploit. We call that 'gerrymandering'.

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. L

Complete bullshit strawman. Nobody anywhere called for changing the rules retroactively. I myself have been on this case for months continuously, and for years before that. But you can't deal with that perspective so you want to invent positions you wish others had taken. But they didn't. Reality doesn't work that way Chuckles.

Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run.

Actually lost in bullshit memes you can't explain.

We've done these points all to death. Over seven hundred posts in the main one, and no one has yet been able to justify or demonstrate that particular line of bullshit.

Obama had 8 years to ask for an amendment. The Democrats controlled congress from 2007 to 2010 they could have created an amendment.

 

[TNHarley]

We don't need an alternative.

We do, but the OP hasn't presented any, and apparently is not in possession of sufficient creative juices to do so.

We don't.

 

[FA_Q2]

bullshitious

ROFLMAO

Okay Pogo - I am DEFINITELY steeling that term.

 

[FA_Q2]

POTUS should be by PV, end of story. That would utterly change the manner in which candidates campaign BTW and would not, IMHO, change the ability one bit for them to be elected as far as D vs R. Republicans would have a great stage to run on as they could reach millions of people at one time in cities. Dems would have to reach out to far less populated areas to win over new voters.

 

[TheDude]

NONE of the above. Land masses --- counties --- states ---- districts ---- these are all arbitrary and pointless boxes to put people in so you don't have to look at who they are. All equally bullshitious. And in the case of Districts, easily engineered into entities that behave in predictable way that one can exploit. We call that 'gerrymandering'.

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. L

Complete bullshit strawman. Nobody anywhere called for changing the rules retroactively. I myself have been on this case for months continuously, and for years before that. But you can't deal with that perspective so you want to invent positions you wish others had taken. But they didn't. Reality doesn't work that way Chuckles.

Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run.

Actually lost in bullshit memes you can't explain.

We've done these points all to death. Over seven hundred posts in the main one, and no one has yet been able to justify or demonstrate that particular line of bullshit.

Check this guy out. He says nobody ever called for changing the rules retro. You stupid, can't read or ignorant?

What case are you on oh over-use-of-strawman-argument-cuz-you-think-it-sounds-intelligent-one?

And what perspective can I not handle?

Of course I can explain emotionally lost. You have the internet? Look around you, people use their ass more than their brains, especially liberals. Consider the base.

 

[BlindBoo]

The States can change it.

Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

The bill has been enacted by 11 jurisdictions possessing 165 electoral votes—61% of the 270 electoral votes necessary to activate it

 

[FA_Q2]

^been saying this for awhile. Many seem to think that the only way to make it happen is with an amendment and that is not true. The EC is essentially nullified as soon as enough states agree to a PV.

That other 39% though is VERY hard to attain. None of the swing states are going to buy off on it and none of the major republican states will either. I do not see it happening as much as I would agree with it.

 

[Norman]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

Where is the option "whatever makes my candidate win and Trump lose instantly".


Oh, oh, but Trump won. Deal with it.

 

[Flash]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

The only reasons these Moon Bats are on the EC hate train is because their corrupt bitch lost the EC vote and won the popular vote, mostly by the illegal voters

Had Crooked Hillary won the EC vote and lost the popular vote none of these hypocritical Libtard assholes would be saying a thing. In fact they would be praising the EC.

They really don't have convictions on things like this. They just wing it in their partisan pig ranting of the day.

It will be comical to see the clowns butt hurt over this for the next eight years. Nothing sweeter than Liberal tears.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

The only reasons these Moon Bats are on the EC hate train is because their corrupt bitch lost the EC vote and won the popular vote, mostly by the illegal voters

Had Crooked Hillary won the EC vote and lost the popular vote none of these hypocritical Libtard assholes would be saying a thing. In fact they would be praising the EC.

They really don't have convictions on things like this. They just wing it in their partisan pig ranting of the day.

It will be comical to see the clowns butt hurt over this for the next eight years. Nothing sweeter than Liberal tears.

Sacramento Sacrilege

Just to rub it in about illegals, the EC should refuse to recognize California's electoral votes and demand that Alto Mexico play by the rules next time.

 

[Pogo]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

The only reasons these Moon Bats are on the EC hate train is because their corrupt bitch lost the EC vote and won the popular vote, mostly by the illegal voters

Had Crooked Hillary won the EC vote and lost the popular vote none of these hypocritical Libtard assholes would be saying a thing. In fact they would be praising the EC.

They really don't have convictions on things like this. They just wing it in their partisan pig ranting of the day.

It will be comical to see the clowns butt hurt over this for the next eight years. Nothing sweeter than Liberal tears.

Sacramento Sacrilege

Just to rub it in about illegals, the EC should refuse to recognize California's electoral votes and demand that Alto Mexico play by the rules next time.

Reeeeally. The EC should do that just because some wag on the internet invented a bullshit story about "illegals voting" --- that nobody can prove?

The bar's pretty low for summa y'all.

 

[Pogo]

Liberal nation wants to change the game because they lost. Lost in their emotions, they lack the ability to comprehend there's good reason we don't allow metropolises to dictate how the entire country is run. The larger the city the greater the decay. That's just how shit works. The citizens are more likely to fall prey to propaganda, and they're more likely to be socially dependent. In other terms, they're more likely corrupt, they're followers. Imagine the cost, chaos and rapid dumbing down if these people dictated how every county is run. Perhaps an alternative is one of these, though Trump would have won regardless:

The only reasons these Moon Bats are on the EC hate train is because their corrupt bitch lost the EC vote and won the popular vote, mostly by the illegal voters

Had Crooked Hillary won the EC vote and lost the popular vote none of these hypocritical Libtard assholes would be saying a thing. In fact they would be praising the EC.

They really don't have convictions on things like this. They just wing it in their partisan pig ranting of the day.

It will be comical to see the clowns butt hurt over this for the next eight years. Nothing sweeter than Liberal tears.

Must be damn inconvenient that I've been railing against it for the last two decades, including continuously on these boards over the entire last year.

oooopsie.

 

[Onyx]

How about no EC and no alternative? You could just get on with your lives and stop letting Washington dictate your success.

 

[Pogo]

POTUS should be by PV, end of story. That would utterly change the manner in which candidates campaign BTW and would not, IMHO, change the ability one bit for them to be elected as far as D vs R. Republicans would have a great stage to run on as they could reach millions of people at one time in cities. Dems would have to reach out to far less populated areas to win over new voters.

Zackly. Candidates would finally be seen in places they don't bother to go now because the EC has them either locked-out or locked-in. Hillary would have been in Kansas. Rump might have gone to Connecticut.

It would also mean those voters who actually live in Kansas or Connecticut --- or Utah or Oregon or Texas or New York --- would actually have a reason to leave the house on Election Day since their state would not have been already unanimously decided as "red" or "blue". All that bullshit goes away, and turnout goes way up.

 

[Pogo]

bullshitious

ROFLMAO

Okay Pogo - I am DEFINITELY steeling that term.

I've actually worn it out by now. I can move on to cockamamical, speciousity and dumbfuckitude®.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

I don't understand how the benefits of the EC are so foreign to all of you. Democrats seem to understand how this shit works when they talking about getting the money out of politics.

The very fact that the vast, VAST majority of politicians in the US compromise their values and political agendas in order to appease campaign donors and lobbyists is, if nothing else, clear proof that reelection is one of, if not THE primary objective of the agendas of most of these chuckleheads in office.

If you create a system that allows them to consolidate campaign costs by simply pandering to a small number of major population centers, you're virtually guaranteeing that insane proportions of federal funding are routed to four or five cities at the cost of the entire rest of the country as national level campaigning becomes a contest of giving as much of "flyover country's" shit to LA, New York, Chicago and Houston as you can legally justify siphoning off of them.

The US is not, and has never been, a Democracy, and we should all be thankful for that. Populous majorities are every bit as capable tyranny and stupidity as individual dictators.