All Those Lives and Money Wasted on Saddam

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

 

[healthmyths]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

Iraq Liberation and 100,000 children per year were saved from starvation in six weeks!
4,000 soldiers 200,000 wounded ALL because of THESE traitors LIKE YOU who rooted for Saddam and the Terrorists to kill more soldiers and to prolong the war all with the help of the MSM and traitorous statements like these:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!

If you don't believe the terrorists were happy, elated to hear above traitors praise their efforts and disrespect their OWN troops.. you are totally ignorant.. truly oblivious to the affects this Harvard study said:

A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:

"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.

The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to expected probability of US withdrawal.
On a related note, the New York Times reports that the media aren't paying as much attention to Iraq as they used to:
Media attention on Iraq began to wane after the first months of fighting, but as recently as the middle of last year, it was still the most-covered topic.
Since then, Iraq coverage by major American news sources has plummeted to about one-fifth of what it was last summer, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
If the Harvard study is right, we may be looking at a virtuous circle: Less violence means less media coverage, which in turn means less violence, says the Wall Street Journal.
Perhaps one day we'll wake up to discover that America won the war in Iraq months earlier, but no one noticed because the reporters were all busy with other things.
Victory in Iraq Day, November 22, 2008

 

[California Girl]

Oh look, a flame thread masquerading as 'politics'. How unusual. Not.

Personally, I think people who use our war dead as a 'flame fest' about political ideology do not qualify to be called human beings, yet alone Americans.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Boooohoooohoooooush

 

[DiamondDave]

Another trolling troll is still trolly

 

[Truthmatters]

why dont you campaign next election on how GREAT Bush was?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh look, a flame thread masquerading as 'politics'. How unusual. Not.

Personally, I think people who use our war dead as a 'flame fest' about political ideology do not qualify to be called human beings, yet alone Americans.

Is that why the rightwing Obama haters on this forum never did any such thing regarding the Benghazi deaths?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The OP has an excellent point. Why aren't all the war mongers on this forum who insist to this day that the Iraq War was NECESSARY now arguing that invading North Korea must be NECESSARY??

The same exact conditions. Why the flip flop, people? Are you admitting that those of us who have said all along that the Iraq war was UNNECESSARY were right?

Well, we were. And you were wrong, and this only further proves it.

 

[jknowgood]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

Liberals love dictators like this one, just ask dennis rodman.

 

[jknowgood]

why dont you campaign next election on how GREAT Bush was?

After 8 years of the failure we have now, bush will look great.

 

[Truthmatters]

so you just deny all the facts of a recovering economy?


see your just stuck on stupid

 

[LordBrownTrout]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

LBJ. 59,000 americans dead. Vietnam war. Continue on you hack.

 

[Truthmatters]

Obama bikini graph - Bing Images

 

[BlindBoo]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

Iraq Liberation and 100,000 children per year were saved from starvation in six weeks!
4,000 soldiers 200,000 wounded ALL because of THESE traitors LIKE YOU who rooted for Saddam and the Terrorists to kill more soldiers and to prolong the war all with the help of the MSM and traitorous statements like these:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!

If you don't believe the terrorists were happy, elated to hear above traitors praise their efforts and disrespect their OWN troops.. you are totally ignorant.. truly oblivious to the affects this Harvard study said:

A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:

"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.

The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to expected probability of US withdrawal.
On a related note, the New York Times reports that the media aren't paying as much attention to Iraq as they used to:
Media attention on Iraq began to wane after the first months of fighting, but as recently as the middle of last year, it was still the most-covered topic.
Since then, Iraq coverage by major American news sources has plummeted to about one-fifth of what it was last summer, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
If the Harvard study is right, we may be looking at a virtuous circle: Less violence means less media coverage, which in turn means less violence, says the Wall Street Journal.
Perhaps one day we'll wake up to discover that America won the war in Iraq months earlier, but no one noticed because the reporters were all busy with other things.
Victory in Iraq Day, November 22, 2008

Conditions in Iraq get worse by the day. Now we find ourselves policing another nation's civil war. We are less secure from the many threats to our national security than we were when the war began. As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course. No one wants us to succeed in the Middle East more than I do. But there must be a change of course. Our brave men and women overseas have passed every test with flying colors. They have earned our pride and our praise. More important, they deserve a strategy worthy of their sacrifice.

"It's much worse than reported," said Pennsylvania Rep. John Murtha, a critic of the war, but also a Marine combat veteran with close ties to the Marine command. While early reports estimated 15 civilians were killed, Mr. Murtha said the military now believes the number was 24 and that "our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

"there is no reason ... that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the -- of -- the historical customs, religious customs. ... Iraqis should be doing that."

We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

Iraq Liberation and 100,000 children per year were saved from starvation in six weeks!
4,000 soldiers 200,000 wounded ALL because of THESE traitors LIKE YOU who rooted for Saddam and the Terrorists to kill more soldiers and to prolong the war all with the help of the MSM and traitorous statements like these:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!

If you don't believe the terrorists were happy, elated to hear above traitors praise their efforts and disrespect their OWN troops.. you are totally ignorant.. truly oblivious to the affects this Harvard study said:

A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:

"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.

The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to expected probability of US withdrawal.
On a related note, the New York Times reports that the media aren't paying as much attention to Iraq as they used to:
Media attention on Iraq began to wane after the first months of fighting, but as recently as the middle of last year, it was still the most-covered topic.
Since then, Iraq coverage by major American news sources has plummeted to about one-fifth of what it was last summer, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
If the Harvard study is right, we may be looking at a virtuous circle: Less violence means less media coverage, which in turn means less violence, says the Wall Street Journal.
Perhaps one day we'll wake up to discover that America won the war in Iraq months earlier, but no one noticed because the reporters were all busy with other things.
Victory in Iraq Day, November 22, 2008

Bush had lost all credibility with his own party because of Iraq. Pay attention. Or at least try to recall American history for the last 6 years.

 

[NYcarbineer]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

Liberals love dictators like this one, just ask dennis rodman.

Would you trade your life for the freedom of the North Korean people?

 

[jknowgood]

so you just deny all the facts of a recovering economy?


see your just stuck on stupid

Whats the unemployment rate again? It was also stated the other day that people on disability isn't counted as unemployed, so the unemployment rate is alot higher than reported.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The OP has an excellent point. Why aren't all the war mongers on this forum who insist to this day that the Iraq War was NECESSARY now arguing that invading North Korea must be NECESSARY??

The same exact conditions. Why the flip flop, people? Are you admitting that those of us who have said all along that the Iraq war was UNNECESSARY were right?

Well, we were. And you were wrong, and this only further proves it.

Yup. My point is missed on these pinheads.

Kim Jong Il was pointing missiles at us even while these stupid morons were watching our troops getting blown up on bridges in Fallujah.

There are an average of 12-15 civil wars ongoing in Africa at any given t ime because of oppressive dictators who starve their people, but the idiots on this board just drool over whatever Fox force-feeds them.

 

[BlindBoo]

4200 lives, 200,000 wounded and a trillion dollars later, and this guy and his dad should have been the ones that "had to go".
Kim Jong Un and his father, Kim Jong Il should have been in Dick Cheney's crosshairs, but there's no money in bombing North Korea.

Hope all you dumbass Dick Groupies are finally waking up.

LBJ. 59,000 americans dead. Vietnam war. Continue on you hack.

In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.

The Paris peace talks may have ended years earlier, if it had not been for Nixon's subterfuge
Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.

So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.

He was also told why. The FBI had bugged the ambassador's phone and a transcripts of Anna Chennault's calls were sent to the White House. In one conversation she tells the ambassador to "just hang on through election".

Johnson was told by Defence Secretary Clifford that the interference was illegal and threatened the chance for peace.

BBC News - The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon's 'treason'

 

[NYcarbineer]

If Obama ordered an invasion of North Korea, not one rightwing nut on this board would support it.