Alabama & Now Texas Line Up Defending Sovereignty On Husband/Wife, Father/Mother Marriage

Which state will next officially stand up for its sovereignty citing Windsor 2013 do you think?

  • Louisiana

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Idaho

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Mississippi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nebraska

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Arizona

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (see my post)

    Votes: 2 66.7%

  • Total voters
    3

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Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy S. Moore headlined an Austin rally on Monday calling for “Biblical marriage.”
Marriage equality opponents staged the rally to show support for passage of the Preservation of Sovereignty and Marriage Act, a Republican bill which seeks to prohibit county clerks from issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples and would require Texas courts to dismiss challenges to the state's ban on gay marriage. The bill is scheduled for a hearing Wednesday.....“I'm teaching that federal courts have no authority in this area,” he said
. Roy Moore Federal Courts Have No Authority To Rule On Gay Marriage Bans - On Top Magazine Gay news entertainment

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Well, "Biblical marriage" is nice, but it isn't going to cut it all the way. What is needed is an EXPLANATION in secular terms why the brand new type of redaction to the word "marriage" would hurt other people.

In this case, it hurts children specifically by depriving sons of fathers and daughters of mothers as a proposed institution:

A Child Can t Call 2 Women or 2 Men Mom Dad US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

In any event, the states one by one are reclaiming their sovereignty on this important matter. All they have to do is cite Windsor 2013. That is the law until further notice. They also need to insist that such a radical social experiment where kids are used as lab rats...undergoing a thing even the cult of LGBT members themselves statistically didn't have to undergo (fatherless or motherless marriages), to affect the core of all society into time unforeseen, cannot be left up to just 5 people in DC.....

...especially when two of the 5 need to recuse themselves....( Breaking Justice Kagan Must Recuse Herself From Upcoming Gay Marriage Hearing Page 51 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum )...on the question; and ALL of the Justices need to quit refusing to uphold stays that preserve THEIR OWN DECISION in Windsor 2013 until/unless further notice BY THEMSELVES AND THEMSELVES ONLY. After all, it says no less than 56 times in 26 pages of the Windsor Opinion that the question of the radical redaction of the word "marriage" is up to the discreet communities within the separate states:

Lifestyle-Marriage Equality Slugout State Authority vs Federal US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Did you know that no lower federal court below SCOTUS may overturn Windsor on the specific question of law: "whether or not the fed will bless the new radical redaction to the word "marriage" from underneath? Now you do! NONE of the lower court orders are binding to any state that has opted to defend the physical structure of the word "marriage" to incentivize fathers for sons and mothers for daughters in marriage.

Those lower circuit decisions are not worth the paper they're written on. They are procedurally-impossible. They violate federal procedural rules. The last and final word on attempting to institutionalize fatherless sons and motherless daughters "as married" was Windsor 2013. SCOTUS is the only authority that can overturn that. Even the stays they themselves denied to uphold (that they cited no merit on to the detriment of state sovereignty) are worthless. The states may do as they please. SCOTUS itself must decide if this radical new social experiment must be forced upon the states by just 5 people in DC, forever, or if the discreet communities get to weigh in on the complete upheaval of their own society.
 
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Oh dear, another thread that exposes how clueless you are concerning the Windsor ruling.

This is like the 15th thread you started with the exact same nonsense and each time you've been laughably destroyed. You must be a glutton for punishment. lol
 
I think the next state that will cite Windsor to ban gay marriage is your own head.
 
Oh dear, another thread that exposes how clueless you are concerning the Windsor ruling.
This is like the 15th thread you started with the exact same nonsense and each time you've been laughably destroyed. You must be a glutton for punishment. lol
Texas and Alabama don't think so. :popcorn:
 
Oh dear, another thread that exposes how clueless you are concerning the Windsor ruling.
This is like the 15th thread you started with the exact same nonsense and each time you've been laughably destroyed. You must be a glutton for punishment. lol
Texas and Alabama don't think so. :popcorn:

Not to worry, like you, they'll be laughably destroyed as well concerning this issue.

Where is Texas citing Windsor as a reason the federal government doesn't have an authority concerning marriage? Or did you make that up as well?
 
Well of the poll choices I'd have to say Mississippi would be next because that's the least educated, most ignorant state in the Union. Well besides Alabama but that's not an option.

So there you go Silh Mississippi, final answer!

Of course that's all moot come June when gay marriage is legalized across all 50 states.
 
I love that Sil is citing "On-Top" magazine for her lastest bout of silliness. lol.
 
Where is Texas citing Windsor as a reason the federal government doesn't have an authority concerning marriage? Or did you make that up as well?

They will, if they want to come out on top. They will cite SCOTUS' own words as the highest authority of their self-sovereignty. Meritless stays do not trump an actual US Supreme Court Finding upon the merits. Time to look for case law on meritless vs merited Findings and their dominance.

The US Supreme Court is not allowed to 'shadow-signal' the public that it's going to vote a certain way before arguments have even been heard.
 
Well of the poll choices I'd have to say Mississippi would be next because that's the least educated, most ignorant state in the Union. Well besides Alabama but that's not an option.

So there you go Silh Mississippi, final answer!

Of course that's all moot come June when gay marriage is legalized across all 50 states.
And 13 year old marraige? Will age limits be abolished too? How about polygamy?

Or is it that you believe states CAN set CERTAIN qualifications on the (by definition) privelege of marriage? Just not on making sure children of marriage have a mother AND a father?
 
Where is Texas citing Windsor as a reason the federal government doesn't have an authority concerning marriage? Or did you make that up as well?

They will, if they want to come out on top. They will cite SCOTUS' own words as the highest authority of their self-sovereignty. Meritless stays do not trump an actual US Supreme Court Finding upon the merits. Time to look for case law on meritless vs merited Findings and their dominance.

The US Supreme Court is not allowed to 'shadow-signal' the public that it's going to vote a certain way before arguments have even been heard.

So they haven't. Like I said, you made it up.

The part you keep ignoring about the Windsor ruling is where state marriage laws are subject to certain constitutional guarantees. You can ignore it all you wish but I don't think the courts are going to do so.
 
Where is Texas citing Windsor as a reason the federal government doesn't have an authority concerning marriage? Or did you make that up as well?

They will, if they want to come out on top. They will cite SCOTUS' own words as the highest authority of their self-sovereignty. Meritless stays do not trump an actual US Supreme Court Finding upon the merits. Time to look for case law on meritless vs merited Findings and their dominance.

The US Supreme Court is not allowed to 'shadow-signal' the public that it's going to vote a certain way before arguments have even been heard.
So...Texas is a Top......and here they always struck me as a Bottom.
 
Well of the poll choices I'd have to say Mississippi would be next because that's the least educated, most ignorant state in the Union. Well besides Alabama but that's not an option.

So there you go Silh Mississippi, final answer!

Of course that's all moot come June when gay marriage is legalized across all 50 states.
And 13 year old marraige? Will age limits be abolished too? How about polygamy?

Or is it that you believe states CAN set CERTAIN qualifications on the (by definition) privelege of marriage? Just not on making sure children of marriage have a mother AND a father?
Age limits are going up......despite religious nuts.
 
Well of the poll choices I'd have to say Mississippi would be next because that's the least educated, most ignorant state in the Union. Well besides Alabama but that's not an option.

So there you go Silh Mississippi, final answer!

Of course that's all moot come June when gay marriage is legalized across all 50 states.
And 13 year old marraige? Will age limits be abolished too? How about polygamy?

Or is it that you believe states CAN set CERTAIN qualifications on the (by definition) privelege of marriage? Just not on making sure children of marriage have a mother AND a father?

We haven't even left the first page and you're already hijacking your own thread. lol.
 
Texas seems to like to pay its lawyers, like for ignoring the Supreme Court in this case. These bozos never learn.
Don't forget Alabama too. It's two states now that are asserting their sovereignty via Windsor 2013. Did you vote on who you think will be next? I voted Oklahoma because of the slew of laws they're passing there to preserve the word "marriage" and its base structure that provide both a mother and a father to kids involved.

Excuse me, it's 2 states plus the 4 in the 6th circuit jurisdiction that judge Sutton has preserved: 6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb s Up to States Choice on Gay Marriage US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So, 6 states have their sovereignty a la Windsor 2013 preserved and marriage has not been structurally dismantled in these states to institutionalize motherless or fatherless "marriages" to the detriment of kids used as lab rats to "see how it all works out"
 
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