Air force or Marines?

When I was learning to fly, my Dad, a career fighter and instructor pilot in the U.S. Air Force, warned me to never navigate by following railroad tracks between towns....... I might run head on into a "Naval aviator".:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

He also said that you could always tell the pilots from the mechanics in the latrine........... the mechanics wash their hands before they piss.:lol:

When he was 19 he would fly his P-51 from Martlesham Heath Airfield in England to Germany and back escorting B-17s. These would be nine hour missions where he would bring a couple of empty coke bottles to piss in. Nine hours of holding onto a stick attached to a 1200 horsepower RollsRoyce Merlin engine. He had to fly over the Channel twice knowing if that engine quit that he had seconds to get into a raft before freezing. He would fight Luftwaffe pilots that were trying to destroy our bombers before they could get their payload to it's target, while trying to keep his plane in the air and not colliding with another. He also had to deal with flack and the Luftwaffe again on the return flight. If they would spot a locomotive or other enemy target on the way home they would take it out with the 6 50 caliber machine guns in their wings. Landing a P-51, after flying it that long, wasn't exactly a sure thing either, a lot of guys lost their lives making mistakes at this point in their mission.

He flew for the U.S. Air Force for 29 years before retiring and flying another 20 years as a corporate pilot. He was married to my Mother for 57 years, raised 6 kids and was the most honest and decent man I have ever known. If he had heard someone say he was a pussy for being an United States Air Force pilot, he would have laughed at such an ignorant ass statement and let it ride, he knew better than to waste his time trying to educate a neanderthal.
 
When I was learning to fly, my Dad, a career fighter and instructor pilot in the U.S. Air Force, warned me to never navigate by following railroad tracks between towns....... I might run head on into a "Naval aviator".

He also said that you could always tell the pilots from the mechanics in the latrine........... the mechanics wash their hands before they piss.

When he was 19 he would fly his P-51 from Martlesham Heath Airfield in England to Germany and back escorting B-17s. These would be nine hour missions where he would bring a couple of empty coke bottles to piss in. Nine hours of holding onto a stick attached to a 1200 horsepower RollsRoyce Merlin engine. He had to fly over the Channel twice knowing if that engine quit that he had seconds to get into a raft before freezing. He would fight Luftwaffe pilots that were trying to destroy our bombers before they could get their payload to it's target, while trying to keep his plane in the air and not colliding with another. He also had to deal with flack and the Luftwaffe again on the return flight. If they would spot a locomotive or other enemy target on the way home they would take it out with the 6 50 caliber machine guns in their wings. Landing a P-51, after flying it that long, wasn't exactly a sure thing either, a lot of guys lost their lives making mistakes at this point in their mission.

He flew for the U.S. Air Force for 29 years before retiring and flying another 20 years as a corporate pilot. He was married to my Mother for 57 years, raised 6 kids and was the most honest and decent man I have ever known. If he had heard someone say he was a pussy for being an United States Air Force pilot, he would have laughed at such an ignorant ass statement and let it ride, he knew better than to waste his time trying to educate a neanderthal.

Are you sure he was in the "Air Force" during WWII? Cause im pretty sure the US didn't have an air force during that time period. :confused: But anyways...Its like what everyone else has said. it depends on wat you want. if you want hardcore training and loyal officers that treat people with respect and are willing to put their lives on the line for you during combat, then pick the marines. If your into flying, and more of a laid back kind of person then pick the Air Force.

But here is an example to show you what both are like. Ur in a bar and You see an air force officer and you ask him wat he does for a living. He says, "Im in the Air Force"
then you see a marince officer and ask him wat he does for a living. He says, "I am a MARINE"

Semper Fi (Always Faithful)
 
Both the Air Force and the Marines are superb organizations, but if you want my opinion, and you want to do some good for the world, I'd say go U.S. Coast Guard.

The mission of the Coast Guard is to save lives. What better way to help your fellow man?

Immie
 
Both the Air Force and the Marines are superb organizations, but if you want my opinion, and you want to do some good for the world, I'd say go U.S. Coast Guard.

The mission of the Coast Guard is to save lives. What better way to help your fellow man?

Immie

For every enemy you kill, you save ten marines lives. That's the real way to save lives.
The coast guard is a good organization too, im not trying to take anything away from it.
 
When I was learning to fly, my Dad, a career fighter and instructor pilot in the U.S. Air Force, warned me to never navigate by following railroad tracks between towns....... I might run head on into a "Naval aviator".

He also said that you could always tell the pilots from the mechanics in the latrine........... the mechanics wash their hands before they piss.

When he was 19 he would fly his P-51 from Martlesham Heath Airfield in England to Germany and back escorting B-17s. These would be nine hour missions where he would bring a couple of empty coke bottles to piss in. Nine hours of holding onto a stick attached to a 1200 horsepower RollsRoyce Merlin engine. He had to fly over the Channel twice knowing if that engine quit that he had seconds to get into a raft before freezing. He would fight Luftwaffe pilots that were trying to destroy our bombers before they could get their payload to it's target, while trying to keep his plane in the air and not colliding with another. He also had to deal with flack and the Luftwaffe again on the return flight. If they would spot a locomotive or other enemy target on the way home they would take it out with the 6 50 caliber machine guns in their wings. Landing a P-51, after flying it that long, wasn't exactly a sure thing either, a lot of guys lost their lives making mistakes at this point in their mission.

He flew for the U.S. Air Force for 29 years before retiring and flying another 20 years as a corporate pilot. He was married to my Mother for 57 years, raised 6 kids and was the most honest and decent man I have ever known. If he had heard someone say he was a pussy for being an United States Air Force pilot, he would have laughed at such an ignorant ass statement and let it ride, he knew better than to waste his time trying to educate a neanderthal.

Are you sure he was in the "Air Force" during WWII? Cause im pretty sure the US didn't have an air force during that time period. :confused: But anyways...Its like what everyone else has said. it depends on wat you want. if you want hardcore training and loyal officers that treat people with respect and are willing to put their lives on the line for you during combat, then pick the marines. If your into flying, and more of a laid back kind of person then pick the Air Force.

Wow, with that type of useless need to differentiate between my father's service in The Army Air Corps, The U.S. Army Air Forces and the United States Air Force, one would think you had a keen need for perfection in detail. Looking at your post and the amount of typos, misspellings and just plain incorrect usage of words, I see that you obviously aren't really worried about detail. Was this your (not Ur) attempt at a "gotcha"? In the 50 years I spent around my Dad, he never used any other name of the armed service he served in than the U.S. Air Force........ I certainly didn't feel a need to differentiate. You might want to check with any member of Germany's Luftwaffe or Japan's pilots from WW2 that are still alive today and see if they think the United States didn't have an Air Force.

You could also say that if you want to be treated as an adult individual and receive training that will not only make you very proficient at your job but will also give you skill that will help insure a job in the civilian life you will eventually return to, join the U.S. Air Force. If you want to be in a fraternity where you are encouraged to lose any sense of individuality and become a different life form that governs every decision you will make the rest of your life, become a Marine. I have respect for those that have chosen to serve in the Marine Corp but just don't care for the labeling or the "bad ass" attitude, not for me.


But here is an example to show you what both are like. Ur in a bar and You see an air force officer and you ask him wat he does for a living. He says, "Im in the Air Force"
then you see a marince officer and ask him wat he does for a living. He says, "I am a MARINE"

That's an adorable story, exactly why I, as an individual, wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would cause me to describe myself as that organization. I never wanted to be in a fraternity, a gang or on a team either, team sports bore the shit out of me, would rather actually do something than watch others dribble a ball back and forth.


Now I guess I will receive the standard....... "I'll gut you with my Rambo knife for disrespecting The MARINES!......... I didn't, I said that the life isn't for me...... that response would prove one of my points though.
 
well im sorry dude. nothing against your dad. so no need to bring up how good your guys relationship is. and how does my grammar affect my point? i was always taught to get things done as quickly as possible and with most effectivness. so typing short hand gets my point across as quick as possible.

But if you got on here jus to argue with me about my spelling then your not even sticking to the thread title.
Ex. in the battle of iwo jima. the "Air force" and navy bombed the island continuously for several days.
When the MARINES landed the whole island was loose sand and hardly any of the enemy was killed. So now the Marines were stranded on the beach and were picked off one by one by the japan snipers and mortar fire. But for both arguements sake ill include another example.
In the first invasion of Vietnam the 7th calvary landed on landing zone X-ray.
They were out numbered 400 soldiers to 2000 vietnam soldiers. As the marines began to get over ran by the enemy. "Broken arrow" was called over the radio. Broken arrow is basically when ALL the air support the military had at that time sent to the battle and drop their bombs. if it wasn't for the "Air force" that day. we may not have won that battle.

so as you can see i do not disrespect the "Air Force." They are a very prestigious military organization. The air force will promise you opportunities and respect and make u a better person in life.
The marines will make you a more respectable person and make you dig deeper than you ever have and make you overall a better person when you come out (depending on wat you see in battle)
 
However, you can bomb whoever into oblivion for months, just as happened in the First Gulf War and it ain't won and not one inch taken without boots on the ground. We can accomplish that mission without you. You cannot accomplish that mission without us.

Wrong, it depends on what the mission is (Nagasaki? Hiroshima?). Not all missions involve occupation, winning a war is always a joint effort: it almost never (at least when you talk about modern combat) depends on only 1 part of the military. The Gulf (I & II) wars were not "big" wars (Iraq did not have the smallest chance to invade or defeat the US), look at WWII and you ll see that every part of the military is just as important in the effort to defeat the enemy.
 
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When I was learning to fly, my Dad, a career fighter and instructor pilot in the U.S. Air Force, warned me to never navigate by following railroad tracks between towns....... I might run head on into a "Naval aviator".

You mean those naval aviators who land a jet on a pitching and rolling boat in the middle of the ocean in the dark and not a standing still runway with lights? Those naval aviators?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=791_1187781900

[youtube]AsQIaDSBaP8[/youtube]

yeah those navy pilots just suck.
 
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Marines all the way. Look at the past and the future the marines have a history of being the best. You never hear of the air force doing the first and worse job. The marines are the first ones in and last ones out, they always will be. And the air force can stay in the rear with the gear. No one else trains as hard as the marines do and no one else is as good...
 
You mean those naval aviators who land a jet on a pitching and rolling boat in the middle of the ocean in the dark and not a standing still runway with lights? Those naval aviators?

LiveLeak.com - Cockpit view of a jet landing on an aircraft carrier

[youtube]AsQIaDSBaP8[/youtube]

yeah those navy pilots just suck.

I've seen them try to land on a "standing still runway", in daylight. I watched a guy in an F-4 come into a 3 mile long concrete runway with his hook extended, he slammed into the ground hard enough to destroy the gear on a normal plane and then bounced down the runway, he basically crashed his plane into the runway, just like they do into those flat top boats. How many people does it take to bring one of those naval aviators onto the deck? They certainly don't do it alone and I would say that with the same training, any Air Force pilot could crash a Navy aircraft into the deck too.:lol::lol::lol:
 
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However, you can bomb whoever into oblivion for months, just as happened in the First Gulf War and it ain't won and not one inch taken without boots on the ground. We can accomplish that mission without you. You cannot accomplish that mission without us.

Wrong, it depends on what the mission is (Nagasaki? Hiroshima?). Not all missions involve occupation, winning a war is always a joint effort: it almost never (at least when you talk about modern combat) depends on only 1 part of the military. The Gulf (I & II) wars were not "big" wars (Iraq did not have the smallest chance to invade or defeat the US), look at WWII and you ll see that every part of the military is just as important in the effort to defeat the enemy.

What was the mission when we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Defeating Japan. Who was it that took all those islands strung out across the Pacific? The Marine Corps, with help from the Army and Navy.

If you're wondering why I point this out, it's because the USAAF could not have gotten within range of Japan without those boots on the ground. So I'm looking at WWII, and you would be trying to split hairs.

I made a comment based on capability. Those capabilities are fact. That comment did not say the Air Force did or does not have a role.
 

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