ACLU supports religious liberty

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    September 20, 2005: ACLU of New Jersey joins lawsuit supporting second-grader's right to sing "Awesome God" at a talent show.

    August 4, 2005: ACLU helps free a New Mexico street preacher from prison.

    May 25, 2005: ACLU sues Wisconsin prison on behalf of a Muslim woman who was forced to remove her headscarf in front of male guards and prisoners.

    February 2005: ACLU of Pennsylvania successfully defends the right of an African American Evangelical church to occupy a church building purchased in a predominantly white parish.

    December 22, 2004: ACLU of New Jersey successfully defends right of religious expression by jurors.

    December 14, 2004: ACLU joins Pennsylvania parents in filing first-ever challenge to "Intelligent Design" instruction in public schools.

    November 20, 2004: ACLU of Nevada supports free speech rights of evangelists to preach on the sidewalks of the strip in Las Vegas.

    November 12, 2004: ACLU of Georgia files a lawsuit on behalf of parents challenging evolution disclaimers in science textbooks.

    November 9, 2004: ACLU of Nevada defends a Mormon student who was suspended after wearing a T-shirt with a religious message to school.

    August 11, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska defends church facing eviction by the city of Lincoln.

    July 10, 2004: Indiana Civil Liberties Union defends the rights of a Baptist minister to preach his message on public streets.

    June 9, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska files a lawsuit on behalf of a Muslim woman barred from a public pool because she refused to wear a swimsuit.

    June 3, 2004: Under pressure from the ACLU of Virginia, officials agree not to prohibit baptisms on public property in Falmouth Waterside Park in Stafford County.

    May 11, 2004: After ACLU of Michigan intervened on behalf of a Christian Valedictorian, a public high school agrees to stop censoring religious yearbook entries.

    March 25, 2004: ACLU of Washington defends an Evangelical minister's right to preach on sidewalks.

    February 21, 2003: ACLU of Massachusetts defends students punished for distributing candy canes with religious messages.

    October 28, 2002: ACLU of Pennsylvania files discrimination lawsuit over denial of zoning permit for African American Baptist church.

    July 11, 2002: ACLU supports right of Iowa students to distribute Christian literature at school.

    April 17, 2002: In a victory for the Rev. Jerry Falwell and the ACLU of Virginia, a federal judge strikes down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating.

    January 18, 2002: ACLU defends Christian church's right to run "anti-Santa" ads in Boston subways.
     
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    I don't buy those cases as necessarily supporting religion per se. Other factors may be entering the picture in terms of the ACLU's goals. They probably are weighing free speech on the public streets more heavily than the religious expression of one guy. For example, the ACLU may support free speech on the public streets (your list has 3 cases of that) and this must necessarily include religious speech too since the law can't really discriminate on what topic one is speaking about.

    However, if the ACLU supports free religious expression on the public sidewalks, why don't they support free religious expression on the front yard of a public library close to that same sidewalk in the form of a nativity scene? What's the difference between the two....a few feet? :spank3:

     
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    Of course not. They are neither for nor against religion - they are for protecting the 1st amendment.
     
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    According to their skewed version of ....
     
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    Is the nativity scene paid for with public tax revenues? Which case are you referring to, anyway? Do you understand the distinction between private individuals using public property to espouse their views and public tax dollars being used to espouse a particular religious view? In the former case, someone is merely voicing their religious views at no direct expense to the taxpayer , in the latter case the government is taking my tax money that I earned and using it to espouse a particular religious belief.
     
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    Do you understand that the constiution merely says congress shall make no LAW regarding the establishment of religion, and that a decoration, regardless of how religious it is, is not a law?
     
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    Must be a slow day at the DU.
     
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    Amendment I to the US Constitution

    <i>"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"</i>

    The ACLU has a fetish with the first part of this clause, but has totally disregarded the second.

    The Founding Fathers meant that Congress should never set up a state church similar to the Church of England. They regarded the expression of religion in the public sphere as being valid.

    In effect, the ACLU has helped to bring about the prohibition of the free exercise of religion in this country.
     
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    Exactly. Why is this so hard for secularists to understand? Oh, wait, I remember now- they don't want to understand it that way. It doesn't fit in with the Christophobic agenda.
     
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    It doesn't fit into their Marxist agenda, either... well... same thing...

    In my mind, the three great struggles that the United States fought were against ideologies that were anti-Christian and anti-Jewish.

    1. Nazism - the leadership of the Nazi Party were not Christians, but deeply involved in the occult. Hitler's attitude toward Jesus was that He was the bastard son of a Jewish harlot. Two of the goals of Nazism was to eventually exterminate the Jews and overthrow the Christian Church in Germany.

    2. Communism - it is pretty obvious that the Communists were not only anti-religion, but anti-Jewish and anti-Christian. They aggressively persecuted any practice of religion

    3. Islamofascism - this is a struggle that has been going on for centuries. The Islamofascists want to see the Jews annihilated and Christianity overthrown in favor of Islam.
     
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