About this wall

[task0778]

A good, solid, big wall is a deterrent, it's not a solution unto itself but one of several things we can do to diminish the inflow of illegals, drugs, gang members, and the like. What it basically does is steer people to the entry points where they can get their chance to state their case for why they should be allowed in. If the gov't adds security cameras, drones, more border patrol people and more entry points and facilities then we can make a big dent in the numbers of illegal immigration problem.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Trump promised us a wall, and he knows how important it is to keep voters motivated. DHS wants the wall. In video clips we see how it does stop all but the most athletic climbers. If you saw the 6,000 member caravans going to Tijuana to get into the US any way they can, you'd know that the new wall is really needed. We can't afford open borders.

Ain't gonna stop athletic tunnelers and swimmers.

The coyotes who help migrants cross into remote areas of Arizona and Texas will starting charging $5000 to go through a tunnel instead of crossing a desert. And the drug cartels will build the tunnels because they need them to move drugs into the U.S. if they can't transport them across the Rio Grande anymore.

A better solution would be something along the lines of the Marshall Plan: Instead of spending billions to build "steel slats" as Duh Donald now calls it, use the money to get crime and the cartels under control IN country, in Central America. Fucking A, if we can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, we can sure as hell send troops into Honduras and Guatemala and help the people of those countries STAY home instead of fleeing crime and coercion and worse.
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[Mikeoxenormous]

Why oh why dew DemonRats want illegal rats stealing into this country? The fucking Berlin Wall kept people in! Escaping was hard. How many DemonRats want to escape the USA?

Cuba, the Socialist Paradise in the world has been opened by Obozo a couple of years ago, and I dont see many Demoncrats rushing to move there. Why dont they? Because they Demoncrats know that it is a shithole there, and they want this country to be a shithole too. Then it is FAIR and the world will love US as a shithole 3rd world nation...

EDITORIAL: Obama’s Third World America

Mr. Obama has approached the presidency less as a traditional American chief executive and more as a developing world populist. The 2009 stimulus program was taken directly from this playbook, using deficit spending to distribute favors to his union supporters and cronies in the form of public-works projects and other handouts. It was a spectacular failure at creating the promised number of jobs but succeeded in Mr. Obama’s core mission to “spread the wealth around.”

 

[OKTexas]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

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[Mikeoxenormous]

Trump promised us a wall, and he knows how important it is to keep voters motivated. DHS wants the wall. In video clips we see how it does stop all but the most athletic climbers. If you saw the 6,000 member caravans going to Tijuana to get into the US any way they can, you'd know that the new wall is really needed. We can't afford open borders.

Ain't gonna stop athletic tunnelers and swimmers.

The coyotes who help migrants cross into remote areas of Arizona and Texas will starting charging $5000 to go through a tunnel instead of crossing a desert. And the the drug cartels will build the tunnels because they need them to move drugs into the U.S.

A better solution would be something along the lines of the Marshall Plan: Instead of spending billions to build "steel slats" as Duh Donald now calls it, use the money to get crime and the cartels under control IN country, in Central America. Fucking A, if we can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, we can sure as hell send troops into Honduras and Guatemala and help the people of those countries STAY home instead of fleeing crime and coercion and worse.
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When you find the hole that the snakes dug under the wall, you fill them up with concrete with the snakes still in them. Makes a great Christmas gift for under the tree or a stocking stuffer...

 

[Lesh]

Build the Slat Fence !

Build the Slat Fence !

Build the Slat Fence !

 

[ErikViking]

Why oh why dew DemonRats want illegal rats stealing into this country? The fucking Berlin Wall kept people in! Escaping was hard. How many DemonRats want to escape the USA?

Purpose of the Berlin Wall was to keep people out. Their leaders told them so.

I’m not really arguing immigration as a concept, just that this wall is such a big issue. It has become more a symbol of a something than something really needed.

Walls have generally two fundamentally different purposes: either a siege defence installation or means to keep people under control. It does, however, send a pretty strong signal either way. I just think that this proposed wall is more about the signal than that of real practical value.

Purpose of the Berlin Wall was to keep people out. Their leaders told them so.

How many were sneaking in versus sneaking out?

Well, it’s a matter of definition now, isn’t it? This wall was built by a communist dictatorship. In to the west or out from the east?

It’s pretty obvious today. But no free democratic country was advocating for that wall to be built.

It was “sold” as a protective measure by those who built it.

Point here is that e v e n if a wall serve a purpose you have to take in to account the signal it sends. And then weight it’s practical value to that.

It was built to stop East Germans from escaping to freedom.
No one, other than a few idiots, wanted to go from freedom to communist slavery.

Alright.
I don’t know if this is worth it.

The wall served a purpose. Pretty obvious too. But it wasn’t presented as that, get it? They didn’t tell East Germans that they would be kept inside. They said this wall was - protection.

We know history. It’s not that. The wall went to pure symbolic action- it was all it did. The number of people, the drama, suffering is utterly marginal. That wall had no effect at all on a grand scale, order than that of symbol. An iron curtain.

 

[kyzr]

Trump promised us a wall, and he knows how important it is to keep voters motivated. DHS wants the wall. In video clips we see how it does stop all but the most athletic climbers. If you saw the 6,000 member caravans going to Tijuana to get into the US any way they can, you'd know that the new wall is really needed. We can't afford open borders.

Ain't gonna stop athletic tunnelers and swimmers.

The coyotes who help migrants cross into remote areas of Arizona and Texas will starting charging $5000 to go through a tunnel instead of crossing a desert. And the the drug cartels will build the tunnels because they need them to move drugs into the U.S.

A better solution would be something along the lines of the Marshall Plan: Instead of spending billions to build "steel slats" as Duh Donald now calls it, use the money to get crime and the cartels under control IN country, in Central America. Fucking A, if we can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, we can sure as hell send troops into Honduras and Guatemala and help the people of those countries STAY home instead of fleeing crime and coercion and worse.

A slat wall and enforcing e-verify would be cheaper than a Marshal Plan. We want good jobs here, not in Guatemala and Honduras. Besides, who wants the "plato o plomo" decision when that much largess is at stake. I'm a "good fences make good neighbors" kind of guy.

 

[BluesLegend]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

Illegals are KILLING and RAPING thousands of Americans. We can build a wall to keep them out or carpet bomb them back to the stone age, which would you prefer?

 

[ErikViking]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

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So sorry!

 

[WaitingFor2020]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

"About this wall"

Haven't you heard, it's been downgraded to a slat fence, kind of like the one in my signature line.

Oh, by the way, I don't think Mexico is going to be paying for it, LOL.

And the obvious lie that Mexico would pay for it just doesn't seem to faze these stupid idiots.
Get up close to one sometime and look into their eyes...glazed over.
Note the trickle of drool coming out of the corner of their gaping mouths.
Then lean over and look inside one of their ears....light coming from the other side.
Scary.
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[WaitingFor2020]

A good, solid, big wall is a deterrent, it's not a solution unto itself but one of several things we can do to diminish the inflow of illegals, drugs, gang members, and the like. What it basically does is steer people to the entry points where they can get their chance to state their case for why they should be allowed in. If the gov't adds security cameras, drones, more border patrol people and more entry points and facilities then we can make a big dent in the numbers of illegal immigration problem.

Ain't gonna be a good solid big wall.
It's going to be slats.
That's what Duh Donald said on live television yesterday.
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[ErikViking]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

Illegals are KILLING and RAPING thousands of Americans. We can build a wall to keep them out or carpet bomb them back to the stone age, which would you prefer?

You can defeat them on the battlefield or let them place you under indefinit siege? Tough one General Stretchingit.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ain't gonna be a good solid big wall.
It's going to be slats.
That's what Duh Donald said on live television yesterday.
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With solid big wall concrete fence posts

 

[task0778]

Why oh why dew DemonRats want illegal rats stealing into this country? The fucking Berlin Wall kept people in! Escaping was hard. How many DemonRats want to escape the USA?

Purpose of the Berlin Wall was to keep people out. Their leaders told them so.

I’m not really arguing immigration as a concept, just that this wall is such a big issue. It has become more a symbol of a something than something really needed.

Walls have generally two fundamentally different purposes: either a siege defence installation or means to keep people under control. It does, however, send a pretty strong signal either way. I just think that this proposed wall is more about the signal than that of real practical value.

Purpose of the Berlin Wall was to keep people out. Their leaders told them so.

How many were sneaking in versus sneaking out?

Well, it’s a matter of definition now, isn’t it? This wall was built by a communist dictatorship. In to the west or out from the east?

It’s pretty obvious today. But no free democratic country was advocating for that wall to be built.

It was “sold” as a protective measure by those who built it.

Point here is that e v e n if a wall serve a purpose you have to take in to account the signal it sends. And then weight it’s practical value to that.

It was built to stop East Germans from escaping to freedom.
No one, other than a few idiots, wanted to go from freedom to communist slavery.

Alright.
I don’t know if this is worth it.

The wall served a purpose. Pretty obvious too. But it wasn’t presented as that, get it? They didn’t tell East Germans that they would be kept inside. They said this wall was - protection.

We know history. It’s not that. The wall went to pure symbolic action- it was all it did. The number of people, the drama, suffering is utterly marginal. That wall had no effect at all on a grand scale, order than that of symbol. An iron curtain.

It was more than symbolic - if the Berlin Wall had not been built, East Germans would have left in droves. They risked getting shot to get out of there and many of them died trying, and it sure as hell wasn't to keep anybody out. Our proposed wall is the reverse, it is only one part of an overall solution to reduce illegal immigration and the flow of illegal drugs and anything else into the US. What makes this whole thing so vexing is that the democrats voted for that wall 12 years ago, but now that Trump wants it they're voting against it.

 

[BluesLegend]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

Illegals are KILLING and RAPING thousands of Americans. We can build a wall to keep them out or carpet bomb them back to the stone age, which would you prefer?

You can defeat them on the battlefield or let them place you under indefinit siege? Tough one General Stretchingit.

Pick a side you gutless prog, I think we all know where your loyalties lie never mind.

 

[pismoe]

INDEFINITE SIEGE or PERPETUAL SIEGE , i like it !!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump promised us a wall, and he knows how important it is to keep voters motivated. DHS wants the wall. In video clips we see how it does stop all but the most athletic climbers. If you saw the 6,000 member caravans going to Tijuana to get into the US any way they can, you'd know that the new wall is really needed. We can't afford open borders.

Ain't gonna stop athletic tunnelers and swimmers.

The coyotes who help migrants cross into remote areas of Arizona and Texas will starting charging $5000 to go through a tunnel instead of crossing a desert. And the the drug cartels will build the tunnels because they need them to move drugs into the U.S.

A better solution would be something along the lines of the Marshall Plan: Instead of spending billions to build "steel slats" as Duh Donald now calls it, use the money to get crime and the cartels under control IN country, in Central America. Fucking A, if we can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, we can sure as hell send troops into Honduras and Guatemala and help the people of those countries STAY home instead of fleeing crime and coercion and worse.
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When you find the hole that the snakes dug under the wall, you fill them up with concrete with the snakes still in them. Makes a great Christmas gift for under the tree or a stocking stuffer...

Or pump in gasoline and light a match.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

"Nobody has the intention of building a wall." - GDR head of state Walter Ulbricht, East Berlin, June 15th 1961


A few month later, in August 1961 he thanked the labour force for erecting this wall.


It’s purpose; protecting eastern Germany from western spies, insurgents and intrusion of undesirable elements.


A wall is always going to have two sides. Perhaps the actual, acute need for a wall, in reality, isn’t that desperate? More like a political trophy of some kind?

Illegals are KILLING and RAPING thousands of Americans. We can build a wall to keep them out or carpet bomb them back to the stone age, which would you prefer?

They are not.
That is a lie.
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[ErikViking]

INDEFINITE SIEGE or PERPETUAL SIEGE , i like it !!

Perpetual is a far better use of language!