'Abortion' and religious strawmen

[eots]

The garden of eden was for knobheads and eve was a slut. Islam is the only true religion. Join it today. Be all you can be.

My son, you are no better than the drippings from the stinking, rotting, filthy vagina of a dead camel festering in the desert sun. You mock our Lord at your own peril for you will most definately burn in the everlasting firey pit of hell along with the Muslim hordes, the Jews, the Budhists, the Sikhs, the Hindus, and other non-Christian dogs.

I talked to Jesus today and he said to tell you..he really doesn't like you...

 

[Kalam]

The garden of eden was for knobheads and eve was a slut. Islam is the only true religion. Join it today. Be all you can be.

Get a life, you sorry motherfucker. How many times have you attempted to re-register now?

 

[Father Time]

People who are against others having an abortion should get a clue. Unless you're the one have an abortion, it's none of your fucking business. Isn't that what freedom is about?

It's about doing what you want as long as there's no harm to others (unless they consent to it), that's why abortion isn't easily settled because there's a big argument about whether the fetus should be considered. (There's more than one angle to take on it though but you can't just hit and run with freedom).

 

[Care4all]

People who are against others having an abortion should get a clue. Unless you're the one have an abortion, it's none of your fucking business. Isn't that what freedom is about?

It's about doing what you want as long as there's no harm to others (unless they consent to it), that's why abortion isn't easily settled because there's a big argument about whether the fetus should be considered. (There's more than one angle to take on it though but you can't just hit and run with freedom).

Like I said Dad, is it your fucking fetus? NO, SO FUCKING MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

If the fetus is viable, it then becomes an issue with the protection of such....

There may not be standing up until that point, but there certainly is after that point, imo.

 

[Anguille]

If the fetus is viable, it then becomes an issue with the protection of such....

And the issue of who or what has the right to presume to be the "protector" of fetuses.

People tend to forget that pregnant women are viable and sometimes in need of protection.

 

[JBeukema]

And the issue of who or what has the right to presume to be the "protector" of fetuses. .

Who steps in if I shoot you?

 

[Anguille]

Care, you argument fails because you believe in god and god has deemed humans his chosen species. So you can't objectively state that humans are naturally superior, your views are biased from your religion that also states btw that women are second class citizens.

you think animals are equal to humans?

i mean, they should be treated kindly and i love animals, but equal?

come now....

and that has nothing to do with religion. it has to do with the natural order of things.

Well, the idea that there is a hierarchy in nature, a class system if you will, certainly has nothing to do with science.

 

[AllieBaba]

People who are against others having an abortion should get a clue. Unless you're the one have an abortion, it's none of your fucking business. Isn't that what freedom is about?

Freedom stops when it impinges upon the freedom (or the life) of others.

We do NOT have the right to terminate life. In the womb or out of it. It's life, it's human. Freedom is not defined by our right to kill whomever we please.

 

[AllieBaba]

If the fetus is viable, it then becomes an issue with the protection of such....

And the issue of who or what has the right to presume to be the "protector" of fetuses.

People tend to forget that pregnant women are viable and sometimes in need of protection.

Legally their mothers are their protectors. So if their mothers are killing them, they should be prosecuted.

 

[eots]

Care, you argument fails because you believe in god and god has deemed humans his chosen species. So you can't objectively state that humans are naturally superior, your views are biased from your religion that also states btw that women are second class citizens.

you think animals are equal to humans?

i mean, they should be treated kindly and i love animals, but equal?

come now....

and that has nothing to do with religion. it has to do with the natural order of things.

Well, the idea that there is a hierarchy in nature, a class system if you will, certainly has nothing to do with science.

you do realise that if not for this hierarchy you would be toast ..right ?

 

[eots]

If the fetus is viable, it then becomes an issue with the protection of such....

And the issue of who or what has the right to presume to be the "protector" of fetuses.

People tend to forget that pregnant women are viable and sometimes in need of protection.

sometimes viable as what ?.. sometimes in need of protection from what ? is this supposed to mean anything ?...or is it just some vague meaningless string of words

 

[AllieBaba]

It's just the same old trite crap they bring out when they can't think of any good reason for killing babies..other than the fact that they are in the way.

They like to pretend like we have to have legalized abortion in order to accomodate medical emergencies. It's crap. It wasn't true before we had abortion factories, and it still isn't true.

 

[Care4all]

If the fetus is viable, it then becomes an issue with the protection of such....

And the issue of who or what has the right to presume to be the "protector" of fetuses.

People tend to forget that pregnant women are viable and sometimes in need of protection.

Anguille,

the mother's life in all cases surpasses the baby to be's life in importance....the doctor will always, in a life or death situation with a pregnant mother, choose the mother's life to save when vs the foetus, unless told otherwise by the mother....

honestly anguille, if you are in the park with ''aborting is ok until the time of birth'' people, then you are among very few.

there reaches a point in pregnancy, where the fetus is viable, can survive and live without the mother's incubation, and there is a point where pain can be felt and acknowledged by this fetus....it would be cruel and unusual punishment to kill a fetus when it reaches viability stage if there is no medical reason for such and even the most ardent abortion supporters agree with that...?

WHY support such anguille? Women can still have a choice to end their pregnancy early on, which most do???

care

 

[Yukon]

People who are against others having an abortion should get a clue. Unless you're the one have an abortion, it's none of your fucking business. Isn't that what freedom is about?

Freedom stops when it impinges upon the freedom (or the life) of others.

We do NOT have the right to terminate life. In the womb or out of it. It's life, it's human. Freedom is not defined by our right to kill whomever we please.

Basded on your statement above are you for or against state sanctioned murder (capital punishment)?