A victory for "Liberal" science.

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    Man made climate change is the single greatest danger facing the planet today, and the single greatest threat to national security we face. We have to believe that, or we are labeled as deniers, and told that we should be blown up so that we do more damage to the environment.

    The reason I do not worry that much about this is I know that human beings are able to accomplish anything if they try hard enough, and that the only thing that can hold them back is other human beings. The Left is going to do its best to accomplish that.

    Some people think conservatives are anti science.


    Geoengineering faces ban : Nature News

    It is obviously more important to make sure we do not kill off the snail darter than it is to make sure that everything on Earth survives.

    Congratulations on your complete meltdown if you think that AGW exists, and you insist that we do nothing to fix it.
     
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    About as stupid of a post as I have seen. We simply don't have any idea of the unanticipated effects of the geo-engineering solutions proposed. Far wiser to prevent the need for such a project.
     
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    How do you plan on preventing the need for it when we already need it? Or do you think that you can wave a magic wand and erase hundreds of years of environmental damage?:cuckoo:

    People think I am crazy for believing in God. :confused:
     
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    You don't have any idea of the unanticipated effects of the solutions proposed to combat AGW, either...except for wrecking the economies of all Western nations.

    But you damn sure want to sail full steam ahead into that whirlpool.
     
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    Wrong. Anticipated effects of going to clean energy will be a reduction in pollution. It will create jobs, and spread the money out. Mining coal damages the land, pollutes the water and air. Our use of petroleum is funding the very people that would destroy us.

    As of right now, wind is on the par with dirty coal. Solar will soon be there. Geothermal, according the MIT will be cheaper than any of these.

    http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/geothermal.html

    Prof. Tester and panel member David Blackwell, professor of geophysics at Southern Methodist University in Texas, also point out that geothermal resources are available nationwide, although the highest-grade sites are in western states, where hot rocks are closer to the surface, requiring less drilling and thus lowering costs.

    The panel also evaluated the environmental impacts of geothermal development, concluding that these are "markedly lower than conventional fossil-fuel and nuclear power plants."

    "This environmental advantage is due to low emissions and the small overall footprint of the entire geothermal system, which results because energy capture and extraction is contained entirely underground, and the surface equipment needed for conversion to electricity is relatively compact," Tester said.
     
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    How do you expect a country, like Haiti, to pay for "clean" energy when they cannot even afford to pay for the dirty energy we have now?
     
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    Given the fact that nobody is going to presently inconveniance themselves to prevent what can be clearly seen down the road, countries like Haiti will simply suffer and die. Triage. Some you cannot save.
     
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    Might want to start by letting them choose their own leaders..

    And see how it works out from there.

    No?
     
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    What can be clearly seen down the road? The absolute inevitable climate change that will occur no matter what we do? Just how do you expect us to prevent that? Or the upcoming magnetic shift that is overdue? The next eruption of a super volcano?

    You are running around like Chicken Little warning us that the sky is falling, and that we need to buy umbrellas, and ignoring the fact that umbrellas will do nothing to keep us safe.
     
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    That would be a great idea. Or did you think I support totalitarianism?
     

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