A Toxic Force in Our Political Climate

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    So says Media Matters. How say you?

    A request - please try and include your thoughts on the ISSUE here, along with the obligatory bashing of Media Matters. Thank you.
     
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    Moon Why so serious?

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    I don't think it's possible to have a meaningful discussion concerning the attack on one media outlet by another without being able to explore the agenda or motives of the attacker.
     
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    these people are still in search of a brain; beck for instance is not Fox NEWS....what a joke this site is, really.

    its very simple to simple for those simpletons perhaps- go add up all of nthe viewership nightly for cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, well mslsd too I guess than ad up foxs...the nets etc. have a HUGE advantage, but thats not enough you see, there will be NO opposing views allowed. And of course all of their programming is sweetness and light. buffoons.
     
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    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,734,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,720,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 2,296,000
    FOXNEWS BAIER 2,284,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP 2,244,000
    FOXNEWS BECK 2,154,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,190,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 1,087,000
    MSNBC O'DONNELL 1,048,000
    MSNBC SCHULTZ 724,000
    CNNHN GRACE 670,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 628,000
    CNN COOPER 591,000
    CNN KING 560,000
    CNNHN BEHAR 339,000

    His ratings are still up there.
    Sure, a lot of times he can be doom and gloom, but a toxic force?
     
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    First post in response. First ad hominem. Congratulations.
     
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    Your argument that since Fox News has a larger viewing audience than the other networks, it must, therefore, be the best network is, well, laughable, I'm sorry to say.

    Using that test, country and western music would be far superior to Mozart.
     
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    Please point out the ad hominem in my post.
     
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    Yes, a toxic force. And it precisely BECAUSE his ratings are so far up there, that he is a DANGEROUS toxic force.

    Might does not always make right, you know. A large viewing audience only means there are a lot of people who watch him. It says nothing about the content of his show or the intellectual capacity of his audience.

    And an example of how Beck's blather is a toxic force is contained right in the OP quote:

     
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    You are attacking the source rather than addressing the issue. The issue is whether or not Fox News and Glen Beck are "toxic sources" in today's media. Well, are they? Or are they not? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Attacking the "motives" of Media Matters totally avoids any consideration of whether what they are saying is true or not. I could just as easily have left out any reference to Media Matters and just put that quote up there. What would you have done then?

    Look up ad hominem - you'll see what I'm talking about.
     
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    Oh? Last time I looked, that's where his show is located. Fox News. Beck.

    Like so much of what Fox News does, it intentionally obscures the line between news reporting and news opinion. I would venture to say that quite a few people equate whatever Beck says to legitimate news reporting even though it obviously is not.
     

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