Lincoln1976
Senior Member
No, it's not. Government is not society. It's our security guard, nothing more. Society is much larger than government and operates largely independent of the ambitions of politicians.That is a stupid answer...meaningless and stupid.that's a fairly simplistic and unrealistic view.Modern humanity relies on the nation state and it's predecessors.Not so much of a fleecing,but a simple necessity to challenges to people's ways of life through the centuries.Now that is interesting! so,you belief that a globalist "Free market" is the way to go,eh?
well,it has done a great job in destroying Europe so far and no end in sight....it has catapulted China into the modern area,while the west has lost huge numbers of jobs and quite frankly wealth.
Now tell me: how can you compete with Chinese slave worker? do you stay at work for 18 hours and sleep in dormatories in the factory? do you work thousands of miles away from home and only visit your family once or twice a year?
Serpenza,the South African guy in China,had the clutch on his motorbike replaced and he filmed it.He noted that the job has cost him 20 RMB and that money was only payed for the parts...he didn't pay for the labor cost in China,blue collar labor isn't being charged....labor is worthless...can you compete with that?
The left and economics...just doesn't fit
I don't really give much of a shit about nation-states and governments. Mostly just there to herd people into pens so the banksters can fleece them. Fuck. That. Shit.
That's why ALL humans on earth independant from each other came up with similar ideas which more or less resembled a nation state.African tribes,Chinese or Aztech empires all came into being,because people have a yearning to preserve their way of life...anarchy doesn't do that,sorry
Excuses.
So,when you write that your alligiance is to your country and your community and society...what do you mean by that?
That is the definition of nationalism which is fine...being dishonest about that is crap.
I think you're very confused young man...
You don't seem confused. But you're mistaken. Nationalism isn't a good thing.
No, it's not. Government is not society. It's our security guard, nothing more. Society is much larger than government and operates largely independent of the ambitions of politicians.
I wasn't referring to government,but the nation State...sure,one combines the other,yet to point to a government and pull a of ones arse...well,not very convincing,is it?!
"You don't seem confused. But you're mistaken. Nationalism isn't a good thing"
Wrong! nationalism is what keep societies together...without it,well all you have is something like the EU...a dying fascist construct which works against it's own people.
But don't let me stop you from explaining,WHY nationalism isn't a good thing....I am all ears