Discussion in 'Clean Debate Zone' started by Noomi, Aug 20, 2013.
Any reasoned person would agree we should restrict/regulate ownership of nuclear weapons.
This discussion is worthless, because you mindless idiots know nothing about crime statistics.
International crime statistics are a dog's breakfast. Every country defines "crime" with different parameters. In particular, the definition of "violent crime" differs -- well, violently -- from country to country. Any discussion of it is meaningless unless you are very, very careful to compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges.
However, anyone who is not a lunatic American knows that Australians -- whatever else maybe the failings of their ersatz Wanabee-American culture -- are far more peaceable, non-violent and sensible than hysterical Americans are ever likely to be.
No people like numan hate Texas and would never move here.
That's what I tried telling you when you tried comparing the US to Switzerland.
Let's assume you're right. That hasn't a damn thing to do with firearms or any other inanimate objects.
I tend to agree the statistics are meaningless, but for a different reason perhaps. Whether the crime rate goes up or down as the result of stricter or looser gun laws is irrelavent. The second ammendment was not written as a crime prevention measure. The reason the authors of the constitution afforded us the right to bear arms was so the citizenry would have the ability to defend themselves and/or fight a tryannical government.
Think about this amendment in context with all the other rights that come with the following ammendments. On their list of priorties the second most important thing to freedom of speech was making sure people had the right and the ability to defend their life and liberty. That is why statistics do not matter. It does not matter if the violent gun crime escalated ten fold as the result of less restrictive gun laws. It doesn't change the fact that you have the right to defend yourself. It doesn't change the fact that in order to avoid tyranny the citizenry needs an effective means of fighting a tyrannical government.
and that is bad
It's not true at all. Austin proper is filled with people like numan.
that is quite the picture
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