Not in my neighborhood.

[Snookie]

York county in Virginia is full of rich people and conservatives.


"Residents upset over group home plans
Andy_Fox_reports_on_group_home_battle_in_125839_25608759
YORK COUNTY, Va. (WAVY) - Not in my backyard -- that's what people in York County are saying about a group home planned for their neighborhood. Wednesday night residents fought against the facility at a public hearing."

There are plenty of churches in the area where people go every week to hear the gospels of Jesus and the holy people.

Read the following article about their refusal to allow a special needs home to be built on their turf.

How Christian.

WAVY - YC residents fight proposed group home | WAVY.com | York County

 

[Missourian]

"Others feel as if the homes could bring dangerous people -- such as those suffering from schizophrenia, bi polar disorder..."

"It's for the children!"..."We must protect the children!"

Isn't that what liberals always say?

Not a good enough reason this time?

Parents can't be concerned for the welfare of their children if they go to church?

 

[Snookie]

"Others feel as if the homes could bring dangerous people -- such as those suffering from schizophrenia, bi polar disorder..."

"It's for the children!"..."We must protect the children!"

Isn't that what liberals always say?

Not a good enough reason this time?

Parents can't be concerned for the welfare of their children if they go to church?

The richer they are the more paranoid they are.

 

[Connery]

The richer they are the more paranoid they are.

In my experience the richer they are the more entitled they seem to think they are. Bottom line these residents are generally no more dangerous than the residents own children and in many cases more polite and have a clue as to how to get along in this world.

 

[Defer09]

Not only is it dangerous but it could also severely lower their property values which is bad for everyone.
If I was wealthy enough to live in a wealthy neighborhood, I definitely wouldn't agree to something like this.

 

[Snookie]

The richer they are the more paranoid they are.

In my experience the richer they are the more entitled they seem to think they are. Bottom line these residents are generally no more dangerous than the residents own children and in many cases more polite and have a clue as to how to get along in this world.

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

 

[FA_Q2]

The richer they are the more paranoid they are.

In my experience the richer they are the more entitled they seem to think they are. Bottom line these residents are generally no more dangerous than the residents own children and in many cases more polite and have a clue as to how to get along in this world.

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.

You call them entitled. That is rather funny considering they PAID FOR IT. That is not entitlement. Entitlement is when you expect OTHERS to hand it to you; like the ones trying to move into the group home. They generally have god reason though, mentally challenged people really cannot provide what they need and deserve the basics provided to them.

It is worth noting though that while they have the right to try and block the move; such fears seem to be unfounded. From a fairly compressive study done in Illinois:
Sale Price:

Property values rose in 79 percent of the neighborhoods with a group home and in 71 percent of the neighborhoods that did not contain a group home.

Changes in mean sale price after group homes opened were unrelated to opening the group homes.

AVERAGE DIFFERENCE IN CHANGE IN MEAN SALES PRICE FOR EACH GROUP HOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMPARED TO ITS CORRESPONDING CONTROL NEIGHBORHOOD

Stability (turnover rate):

average difference in the change in turnover rate for the 14 group home-control neighborhood pairs was statistically insignificant and, therefore, cannot be attributed to the absence or presence of a group home.

Safety:

Finally, Table 9 identifies all the types of crimes of which group home residents were convicted or accused during the three study years. These figures represent the total for all three types of residences. They cannot be compared directly to the rates for the general population because these categories do not precisely match the categories the state uses. However, in those instances where a comparison could be made, the rates in this study were far below the rates for the general population.

In general, there is not mu reason to block the move – the fears of the impacts are unjustified.

http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

 

[PaulS1950]

Any institution close to a neighborhood will decrease the value of the property in that area. That is a fact. No one wants to buy a home next to a hospital or a detention center. The price that these people paid for their homes will be more than they can sell for when they choose to leave.

We buy our homes where we do because we like what is close and what is not close. Ask yourself if these people would have bought their homes if the facility planned was there when they bought? Why not? Maybe they didn't want a facility of that kind next door. Would anyone have paid the high price for those properties with an institution next door? Would you?

 

[FA_Q2]

Any institution close to a neighborhood will decrease the value of the property in that area. That is a fact. No one wants to buy a home next to a hospital or a detention center. The price that these people paid for their homes will be more than they can sell for when they choose to leave.

We buy our homes where we do because we like what is close and what is not close. Ask yourself if these people would have bought their homes if the facility planned was there when they bought? Why not? Maybe they didn't want a facility of that kind next door. Would anyone have paid the high price for those properties with an institution next door? Would you?

The study I cited shows that it is NOT a fact. Those are homes by the way, NOT institutions. The study followed several such places across the entire state and found nothing supporting your statement so no, it is not ‘fact.’ It is actually outright false.

 

[PaulS1950]

Those "homes" are not owned by the residents - they are owned by the state - that makes them institutions.

Would you pay what the owners of those homes paid if the institutions were in place?

 

[Snookie]

In my experience the richer they are the more entitled they seem to think they are. Bottom line these residents are generally no more dangerous than the residents own children and in many cases more polite and have a clue as to how to get along in this world.

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.



http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

I would not want any rich kids on dope living next to me.

 

[Snookie]

Any institution close to a neighborhood will decrease the value of the property in that area. That is a fact. No one wants to buy a home next to a hospital or a detention center. The price that these people paid for their homes will be more than they can sell for when they choose to leave.

We buy our homes where we do because we like what is close and what is not close. Ask yourself if these people would have bought their homes if the facility planned was there when they bought? Why not? Maybe they didn't want a facility of that kind next door. Would anyone have paid the high price for those properties with an institution next door? Would you?

Great point.

They should build a church there instead.

 

[Snookie]

Those "homes" are not owned by the residents - they are owned by the state - that makes them institutions.

Would you pay what the owners of those homes paid if the institutions were in place?

Correction: they are owned by "We the people."

 

[jwoodie]

In my experience the richer they are the more entitled they seem to think they are. Bottom line these residents are generally no more dangerous than the residents own children and in many cases more polite and have a clue as to how to get along in this world.

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.

You call them entitled. That is rather funny considering they PAID FOR IT. That is not entitlement. Entitlement is when you expect OTHERS to hand it to you; like the ones trying to move into the group home. They generally have god reason though, mentally challenged people really cannot provide what they need and deserve the basics provided to them.

It is worth noting though that while they have the right to try and block the move; such fears seem to be unfounded. From a fairly compressive study done in Illinois:
Sale Price:



Stability (turnover rate):

average difference in the change in turnover rate for the 14 group home-control neighborhood pairs was statistically insignificant and, therefore, cannot be attributed to the absence or presence of a group home.

Safety:

Finally, Table 9 identifies all the types of crimes of which group home residents were convicted or accused during the three study years. These figures represent the total for all three types of residences. They cannot be compared directly to the rates for the general population because these categories do not precisely match the categories the state uses. However, in those instances where a comparison could be made, the rates in this study were far below the rates for the general population.

In general, there is not mu reason to block the move – the fears of the impacts are unjustified.

http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

Quote:
Property values rose in 79 percent of the neighborhoods with a group home and in 71 percent of the neighborhoods that did not contain a group home.


According to this "study," group homes in the neighborhood actually INCREASE property values. Sure they do...

 

[Ernie S.]

"Others feel as if the homes could bring dangerous people -- such as those suffering from schizophrenia, bi polar disorder..."

"It's for the children!"..."We must protect the children!"

Isn't that what liberals always say?

Not a good enough reason this time?

Parents can't be concerned for the welfare of their children if they go to church?

The richer they are the more paranoid they are.

Meh. Teddy Kennedy/wind farms off Hyannisport?

 

[Ernie S.]

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.



http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

I would not want any rich kids on dope living next to me.

But poor kids on anti-psychotic meds or recovering from various addictions, would be OK?

 

[MeBelle]

York county in Virginia is full of rich people and conservatives.


"Residents upset over group home plans
Andy_Fox_reports_on_group_home_battle_in_125839_25608759
YORK COUNTY, Va. (WAVY) - Not in my backyard -- that's what people in York County are saying about a group home planned for their neighborhood. Wednesday night residents fought against the facility at a public hearing."

There are plenty of churches in the area where people go every week to hear the gospels of Jesus and the holy people.

Read the following article about their refusal to allow a special needs home to be built on their turf.
WAVY - YC residents fight proposed group home | WAVY.com | York County

They're ignorant. Seems as though the Planning Commission is trying to make a compromise at least.

Ever hear of Eggleston?

Eggleston Services | Helping Persons with Disabilities | Hampton Roads

A joint horticultural program with the Virginia Zoological Park was opened in the spring of 1999. Originally known as Tanner's Creek Garden Center, this operation raised plants in greenhouse and sold them in a retail store.

That same year, Eggleston Services joined with the Civitan Club of Norfolk to enhance opportunities for citizens with disabilities by offering vacations and other specialty services at Civitan Acres, a 14-acre resort and wellness facility located on Cedar Road in Chesapeake, Virginia.

My hubby initiated and directed both of these main stay projects.
Civitan Acres was a run down sh!t hole. I figured out after the initial revitalization period, he had put in 3 months of 'off book' time to bring Civitan Acres up to basic state standards.

God Bless Louise Eggleston!
The Mission & History of Eggleston Services | Tidewater Vocational Center | Virginia



" want you take me... to Stinky Town

 

[FA_Q2]

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.

You call them entitled. That is rather funny considering they PAID FOR IT. That is not entitlement. Entitlement is when you expect OTHERS to hand it to you; like the ones trying to move into the group home. They generally have god reason though, mentally challenged people really cannot provide what they need and deserve the basics provided to them.

It is worth noting though that while they have the right to try and block the move; such fears seem to be unfounded. From a fairly compressive study done in Illinois:
Sale Price:



Stability (turnover rate):

Safety:

Finally, Table 9 identifies all the types of crimes of which group home residents were convicted or accused during the three study years. These figures represent the total for all three types of residences. They cannot be compared directly to the rates for the general population because these categories do not precisely match the categories the state uses. However, in those instances where a comparison could be made, the rates in this study were far below the rates for the general population.

In general, there is not mu reason to block the move – the fears of the impacts are unjustified.

http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

Quote:
Property values rose in 79 percent of the neighborhoods with a group home and in 71 percent of the neighborhoods that did not contain a group home.


According to this "study," group homes in the neighborhood actually INCREASE property values. Sure they do...

Addressed in the study if you bothered to read it. Obviously you would rather be ignorant than look at actual facts.

Come back when you have something more than outright rejection of scientific studies because you don’t like the outcomes.

 

[FA_Q2]

Absolutely.

There are a lot of their own children who are on dope.

What does dope have anything to do with it. That statement is ridiculous.



http://www.planningcommunications.com/gh/illinois_impact_on_surrounding_neighborhood.pdf

I would not want any rich kids on dope living next to me.

Really? Are you against the legalization of pot?

Would you rather poor people on dope? Or, like Ernie pointed out, apparently you would rather have crazy people on dope next to you.

Your wealth envy is showing , you might want to cover that up.

 

[Katzndogz]

No one wants a halfway house, or group home in their neighborhood. To think otherwise is ridiculous.