A new look at the MWP

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    The Medieval Warm(ish) Period In Pictures

    The Medieval Warm(ish) Period In Pictures
    Posted on 10 July 2011 by Rob Painting
    The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) is a subject of "skeptic" focus, primarily because it was a time of natural warming. It took place from about 950-1250 AD, and, as opposed to today's warming which is global in extent and due to human activities, the MWP was mainly a northern hemisphere phenomenon and smaller in scale. Indeed, the advance of North American glaciers during the MWP is in stark contrast to what is happening in North America today
     
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    my my....is there a Paleo Indian in the house?
     
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    Why lie rocks. The fact is that the MWP was global and warmer than the present. You name an area on the earth and I will gladly provide you with peer reviewed studies that support a warmer MWP in that region.

    Geez rocks, the Vostok ice core data brought the MWP to light. Do you have any idea where Vostok is? It is about 800 miles from the geographic south pole at the damned center of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. If the MWP was a northern phenomenon, why, praytell, might it have registered so strongly in ice cores from the south pole?

    Are you capable of looking at anything critically or are you really no more than a tool to be used by your masters as they see fit?
     
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    He's a perfect tool without an independent thought in his head
     
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    This is exactly why I live for the day when real scientist boot the Warmers off every campus in this country.
     
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    One of the papers that Walleyes posted pointed out that the climate changed 0.02C for the world, based on the Vostok and Greenland cores, and the Indian Ocean sediment cores. The climate has already changed 0.07C by observed temperatures in the present warming. You guys are just doing the flap-yap again with zero data to back you up.
     
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    Whats the point of this thread?

    Everybody knows "man-made" is a scam so..............what????????
     
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    Our zero data > your manipulated data
     
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    Can OleRocks or someone else (probably someone else) explain the following caption to his cartoons in the OP???

    How do you calculate a fractional degree "anomaly" relative to a 30 year period of time? And why relative to anything in that period? Isn't it more important to determine the anomaly with respect to a more contemporary time period? Why not use the LIA?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Being that the green house effect has been falsified by hard science now, we must now look at the one energy source that can force temperature=suns solar output. This graph shows that the modern max and the mid evil warm period are about the same.

    It surely doesn't look like it should be warmer then today looking at the graph.
     
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