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I have to say that I'm disappointed that the best response Canada can muster to the endless construction in the West Bank is to act as Israel's PR agency.
It is woefully one sided, painfully short-sighted and not beneficial to Canada's normally positive reputation abroad. It seems to me that the Canadians have simply crumpled into the lap of lobbyists.
Regardless of how one sees an eventual solution to the Palestinian issues - the construction are an extremely hostile and counter-productive move.
I have to say that I'm disappointed that the best response Canada can muster to the endless construction in the West Bank is to act as Israel's PR agency.
It is woefully one sided, painfully short-sighted and not beneficial to Canada's normally positive reputation abroad. It seems to me that the Canadians have simply crumpled into the lap of lobbyists.
Regardless of how one sees an eventual solution to the Palestinian issues - the construction are an extremely hostile and counter-productive move.
Once again Saigon. Abbas was offered 93%, which is virtually all, of the West Bank (as well as Gaza being completely under control of the Palestinians, and sharing East Jerusalem. He rejected.
I have to say that I'm disappointed that the best response Canada can muster to the endless construction in the West Bank is to act as Israel's PR agency.
It is woefully one sided, painfully short-sighted and not beneficial to Canada's normally positive reputation abroad. It seems to me that the Canadians have simply crumpled into the lap of lobbyists.
Regardless of how one sees an eventual solution to the Palestinian issues - the construction are an extremely hostile and counter-productive move.
Once again Saigon. Abbas was offered 93%, which is virtually all, of the West Bank (as well as Gaza being completely under control of the Palestinians, and sharing East Jerusalem. He rejected.
Once again Saigon. Abbas was offered 93%, which is virtually all, of the West Bank (as well as Gaza being completely under control of the Palestinians, and sharing East Jerusalem. He rejected.
Once again Saigon. Abbas was offered 93%, which is virtually all, of the West Bank (as well as Gaza being completely under control of the Palestinians, and sharing East Jerusalem. He rejected.
With all due respect, Toastman, what Israel did NOT offer was what was key here.
Also - when you post this, please do be clear that you are referring to a map drawn on a napkin. Otherwise you make it sound like a formal and real offer - which it patently was not.
Toastman -
What do you mean?
Ah, ok - sorry, I should have guessed that!
There are a few issues which have never been clairified about the so-called offer, but I have heard it said that what was not offered included -
- any right of return at all
- control of ports and airports
- control of airspace
- control of international borders, including those with Egypt & Jordan
These are all difficult issues.
I do think Olmert's offer was a fairly good one, but thus far I have only read heard his side of it. I wouldn't go too far along the "He offered 95% of the West Bank!" road until you have more information.
Ah, ok - sorry, I should have guessed that!
There are a few issues which have never been clairified about the so-called offer, but I have heard it said that what was not offered included -
- any right of return at all
- control of ports and airports
- control of airspace
- control of international borders, including those with Egypt & Jordan
These are all difficult issues.
I do think Olmert's offer was a fairly good one, but thus far I have only read heard his side of it. I wouldn't go too far along the "He offered 95% of the West Bank!" road until you have more information.
Ah, ok - sorry, I should have guessed that!
There are a few issues which have never been clairified about the so-called offer, but I have heard it said that what was not offered included -
- any right of return at all
- control of ports and airports
- control of airspace
- control of international borders, including those with Egypt & Jordan
These are all difficult issues.
I do think Olmert's offer was a fairly good one, but thus far I have only read heard his side of it. I wouldn't go too far along the "He offered 95% of the West Bank!" road until you have more information.
The prisoners got 95% of the prison.
The only part they did not get was the walls and doors.
Those are very good points, but when two parties are negotiating, I believe both should make offers and counter offers. Abbas did not make a counter offer from what I understand
Those are very good points, but when two parties are negotiating, I believe both should make offers and counter offers. Abbas did not make a counter offer from what I understand
I do agree with you, but I am confused about what happened at these meetings.
I read here:
Olmert Details His Offer to Abbas :: Middle East Forum
Olmert claim they had 35 meetings - and then Abbas seemed to lose interest.
That doesn't add up to me. If Olmert offered everything he said he did, I can't see why Abbas wouldn't have at least taken talks to the next level. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I have to say that I'm disappointed that the best response Canada can muster to the endless construction in the West Bank is to act as Israel's PR agency.
It is woefully one sided, painfully short-sighted and not beneficial to Canada's normally positive reputation abroad. It seems to me that the Canadians have simply crumpled into the lap of lobbyists.
Regardless of how one sees an eventual solution to the Palestinian issues - the construction are an extremely hostile and counter-productive move.
Once again Saigon. Abbas was offered 93%, which is virtually all, of the West Bank (as well as Gaza being completely under control of the Palestinians, and sharing East Jerusalem. He rejected.
Those are very good points, but when two parties are negotiating, I believe both should make offers and counter offers. Abbas did not make a counter offer from what I understand
I do agree with you, but I am confused about what happened at these meetings.
I read here:
Olmert Details His Offer to Abbas :: Middle East Forum
Olmert claim they had 35 meetings - and then Abbas seemed to lose interest.
That doesn't add up to me. If Olmert offered everything he said he did, I can't see why
Abbas wouldn't have at least taken talks to the next level. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Yes, there are a couple of points missing here. Weird.
I'm guessing that had Abbas accepted the offer, then Hamas would have not been to happy ! Maybe he rejected it out of fear?