A message from a veteran about firearms in this country

[Dr Grump]

Yes, they do. And guess what when you are going 100 miles per hour on a motorcycle what are your survival chances? What sort of special survival gear do they place on them? What sort of special safety equipment is mandated on high speed motorcycles?

Yes they do what? Sit around discussing how many people they can kill with cars? Interesting...

You have to have a license to ride a motorcycle. They have a tonne of safety features.

 

[westwall]

Yes, they do. And guess what when you are going 100 miles per hour on a motorcycle what are your survival chances? What sort of special survival gear do they place on them? What sort of special safety equipment is mandated on high speed motorcycles?

Yes they do what? Sit around discussing how many people they can kill with cars? Interesting...

You have to have a license to ride a motorcycle. They have a tonne of safety features.

No, I'm wondering how you keep somebody from driving through a crowd and killing 80 people along a waterfront? Hmmm? Idiots like you think that you can prevent bad behavior by disarming people when the reality is you only make it easier for bad people to do bad things.

 

[Dr Grump]

Let me know how you keep them out of the hands of bad guys? Your gun ban worked so well in France and Norway. What do you do for an encore? Drive a car through a crowd along a waterfront? Oooops. Somebody beat you to it. When will morons like you figure out it ain't the tool. It's the asshole using it?

I've already posted the number of people killed by firearms vs the rest of the western world ad nauseum over the past 10 years on this board. I won't do it again. Enough to say, the US is way ahead, and in that 10 years nothing's changed.

Irrelevant. The argument is, "Does a civilised country need to be armed to the teeth?". You say yes. I say no. And if you look at the countries taht agree with me - the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, France, Germany, Norway, Denmark - I could go on, vs the countries that agree with you - Afghanistan, Iraq, DRC, Colombia, Somalia, Libya - well, I know where I'd rather live.

 

[Dr Grump]

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No, I'm wondering how you keep somebody from driving through a crowd and killing 80 people along a waterfront? Hmmm? Idiots like you think that you can prevent bad behavior by disarming people when the reality is you only make it easier for bad people to do bad things.

So you want to talk about one incident? Tell you what, you write up the number of incidents - non-domestic related - where a person in the US has deliberately rammed their car into a crowd and killed 10 or more people. I reckon you'll be tapping away for about 30 minutes, maybe an hour. I'll do the same with regard to firearms. I reckon I'll still be tapping away this time tomorrow.

 

[Wyatt earp]

So your saying the 1st amendment don't cover modern technology's like television, radio, the internet?


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Are you saying the second cover tanks, F18s and nukes? Cooollll...

Are you saying you can't buy a tank, a military fighter plane?

 

[westwall]

Let me know how you keep them out of the hands of bad guys? Your gun ban worked so well in France and Norway. What do you do for an encore? Drive a car through a crowd along a waterfront? Oooops. Somebody beat you to it. When will morons like you figure out it ain't the tool. It's the asshole using it?

I've already posted the number of people killed by firearms vs the rest of the western world ad nauseum over the past 10 years on this board. I won't do it again. Enough to say, the US is way ahead, and in that 10 years nothing's changed.

Irrelevant. The argument is, "Does a civilised country need to be armed to the teeth?". You say yes. I say no. And if you look at the countries taht agree with me - the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, France, Germany, Norway, Denmark - I could go on, vs the countries that agree with you - Afghanistan, Iraq, DRC, Colombia, Somalia, Libya - well, I know where I'd rather live.

Two mass shootings. The one in Paris, and the one in Norway killed more people than all of the mass shootings here in the USA over the last 15 years. How about you compare ALL of Europe vs the USA? You know, compare populations to populations. Seems fair. Amazingly enough the murder rates are the same. Shocking I know. Gun bans don't prevent criminals from obtaining them. That is what is known as a fact. Idiots like you can't understand the basics. We all know that, but you should at least try.

 

[westwall]

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No, I'm wondering how you keep somebody from driving through a crowd and killing 80 people along a waterfront? Hmmm? Idiots like you think that you can prevent bad behavior by disarming people when the reality is you only make it easier for bad people to do bad things.

So you want to talk about one incident? Tell you what, you write up the number of incidents - non-domestic related - where a person in the US has deliberately rammed their car into a crowd and killed 10 or more people. I reckon you'll be tapping away for about 30 minutes, maybe an hour. I'll do the same with regard to firearms. I reckon I'll still be tapping away this time tomorrow.

The point silly person is IT'S THE PERSON. Not the tool! Are you that clueless! Why yes, yes you are!

 

[Dr Grump]

Are you saying you can't buy a tank, a military fighter plane?

You forgot the nuke...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Let me know how you keep them out of the hands of bad guys? Your gun ban worked so well in France and Norway. What do you do for an encore? Drive a car through a crowd along a waterfront? Oooops. Somebody beat you to it. When will morons like you figure out it ain't the tool. It's the asshole using it?

I've already posted the number of people killed by firearms vs the rest of the western world ad nauseum over the past 10 years on this board. I won't do it again. Enough to say, the US is way ahead, and in that 10 years nothing's changed.

Irrelevant. The argument is, "Does a civilised country need to be armed to the teeth?". You say yes. I say no. And if you look at the countries taht agree with me - the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, France, Germany, Norway, Denmark - I could go on, vs the countries that agree with you - Afghanistan, Iraq, DRC, Colombia, Somalia, Libya - well, I know where I'd rather live.

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

 

[Dr Grump]

The point silly person is IT'S THE PERSON. Not the tool! Are you that clueless! Why yes, yes you are!.

Of course it's the person. Not saying otherwise. That's not the argument.

 

[Dr Grump]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no idea where I live. It is far from a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Are you saying you can't buy a tank, a military fighter plane?

You forgot the nuke...

Knowing obama he would probably let me get one ..and make some bullshit deal with my neighbor

 

[Wyatt earp]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no diea where I live. It is far fro a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

What's the matter pussy are you to embarrassed to say where you live?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no diea where I live. It is far fro a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

What's the matter pussy are you to embarrassed to say where you live?

If he's not from the US he has no business blabbering about US gun ownership or policy

 

[2aguy]

Let me know how you keep them out of the hands of bad guys? Your gun ban worked so well in France and Norway. What do you do for an encore? Drive a car through a crowd along a waterfront? Oooops. Somebody beat you to it. When will morons like you figure out it ain't the tool. It's the asshole using it?

I've already posted the number of people killed by firearms vs the rest of the western world ad nauseum over the past 10 years on this board. I won't do it again. Enough to say, the US is way ahead, and in that 10 years nothing's changed.

Irrelevant. The argument is, "Does a civilised country need to be armed to the teeth?". You say yes. I say no. And if you look at the countries taht agree with me - the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, France, Germany, Norway, Denmark - I could go on, vs the countries that agree with you - Afghanistan, Iraq, DRC, Colombia, Somalia, Libya - well, I know where I'd rather live.

Our non gun murder rate is also higher than the total murder rate....those countries you list.....are now experiencing increasing gun crime...because they now have a violent minority population that does not value life the same way the natural citizens of those countries do......it was never gun ownership among law abiding gun owners that was or is the problem there or here.......it is the willingness of criminals to use guns for crime.

I posted the U.K.....increasing gun violence.

I posted Australia...increasing gun violence. I linked to a 3 part series about their growing gun violence.

Dittos Canada...they are also experiencing increased gun violence....

And they have all the gun laws you want....

Our precious little Kim was robbed at gun point in France...a country that also has all of the gun control you want....

In the 1990s genius....we had 200 million guns in private hands and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.

In 2016...we now have 357 million guns in private hands and close to 15 million people carrying guns for self defense....

And our gun murder rate went down 49%....

What you and the other gun grabbers never understand....forget that, you just don't care, you hate people owning guns because of mental issues.......is that our gun crime problem is not because we have guns...it is because our criminal class has low impulse control.....and is far more violent, even without guns than the natural citizens from European based countries......

But that too is changing as I keep pointing out...they are importing their gun criminals......

 

[Wyatt earp]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no diea where I live. It is far fro a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

What's the matter pussy are you to embarrassed to say where you live?

If he's not from the US he has no business blabbering about US gun ownership or policy

A true coward cut down the u.s. and won't admit What shit hole country he is from.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no diea where I live. It is far fro a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

What's the matter pussy are you to embarrassed to say where you live?

If he's not from the US he has no business blabbering about US gun ownership or policy

A true coward cut down the u.s. and won't admit What shit hole country he is from.

Tell him to go piss up a rope.

 

[2aguy]

How many rounds do you REALLY need to go hunting?

How many do you REALLY need to defend yourself?

If you need more than 10 shots, you're a piss poor marksman and need more practice at the range.

You need as many as you need and the more you have the less likely you are going to run out.......are you psychic...can you tell us how many we will need before we need them?

 

[BluesLegend]

A message from a veteran about firearms in this country

A message from the founders of this nation about firearms...The right to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED so suck it. And they are not 'assault' rifles they are defense rifles. We are not planning an amphibious landing on some beachhead you idiot.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Go ahead and live in your high taxes socialist hell hole, don't call us when you need the U.S. military to defend your ass.

A hell hole? LOL you have no diea where I live. It is far fro a hell hole. The US on the other hand....

And no, you can keep your military at home for all I care. You somehow think that if you do the RIGHT think by having agreements with allies, that somehow they should all kowtow to you. Nice and benevolent of you.

What's the matter pussy are you to embarrassed to say where you live?

If he's not from the US he has no business blabbering about US gun ownership or policy

A true coward cut down the u.s. and won't admit What shit hole country he is from.

Tell him to go piss up a rope.

Lmao he knows He wouldn't dare name the piece of crap country he us from we would have a field day on his ass.