A few facts and figures for our left wing friends.....

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    It would be nice to see a year, hell even a month that Obama doesn't blame Bush for something!!! I do recall Bush wanting Fannie and Freddie to be "reined in" but the Dems would hear nothing of it. Well, they all railroaded Newt Gingrich out, got that bitch Pelosi in, and now they think they all live on Mount Olympus!!










    The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009
    -- it was actually January 3rd 2007.

    The day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives & Senate, the start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    "For those of you who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault," think about this:

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

    At the time:
    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

    George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

    Remember the day.

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
    BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

    THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOS!

    (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).

    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?

    OBAMA

    And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

    OBAMA& the Democratic Congress

    So when some idiot tries to blame Bush

    REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007 THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!

    Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving.

    "It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so." -Ronald Reagan
     
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    Hmm, Bush ONLY vetoed 11 bills, so I guess he agreed with the rest, huh?? And by the way, holding a majority in Congress means nothing according to the rules............. So when did the Dems get 2/3rds of the seats in the House or the Senate?? ***


    May 1, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1591, U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. Override attempt failed in House, 222-203 (284 needed). A later version of the bill that excluded certain aspects of the initial legislation that the President disapproved of... H.R. 2206, was enacted as Pub.L. 110-28 with the President's approval.

    June 20, 2007: Vetoed S. 5, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007. No override attempt made.

    October 3, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 976, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 ("SCHIP"). Override attempt failed in House, 273-156 (286 votes needed).
    November 2, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1495, Water Resources Development Act of 2007. Overridden by House, 361-54 (277 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 79-14 (62 needed), and enacted as Pub.L. 110-114 over President's veto.

    November 13, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3043, Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008. Override attempt failed in House, 277-141 (279 votes needed).

    December 12, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3963, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007.[25] Override attempt failed in House, 260-152 (275 votes needed).

    December 28, 2007: Pocket Vetoed H.R. 1585, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008[26]. A later version of the bill that changed a minor provision of which the President disapproved was quickly passed by Congress (H.R. 4986) and was enacted with the President's approval as Pub.L. 110-181 on 28 January 2008.

    March 8, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2082, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[27][28] Override attempt failed in House, 225-188.

    May 21, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2419, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill.[29][30] Overridden by House, 316-108 (283 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 82-13 (64 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-234 over the President's veto. Due to a clerical error, this act was repealed by Pub.L. 110-246.

    18 June 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6124, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill, re-passed by Congress to correct a clerical error in HR 2419.[31] Overridden by House, 317-109 (284 votes required). Overridden by Senate, 80-14 (63 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-246 over the President's veto.

    July 15, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6331, Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act.[32] Overridden by House, 383-41 (283 votes required.) Overridden by Senate, 70-26 (64 votes required). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-275 over the President's veto.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes


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    Action by both the House and the Senate is required to override.5 A two-thirds
    majority vote by Members present (provided there is a quorum) is required to override a
    presidential veto.

    http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/RS21750.pdf
     
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    You are both fun reads...those were great posts. But frankly I am sick of arguing about which side is more to blame.

    We should be talking about how to fix this mess.
     
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    What are you willing to do about it?

    Option#1. Revolution with no change?

    Option #2. Legally change the Constitution to take funding power away from congress & the President, and make you directly responsible for funding?
     
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    So what was the margin that the Democrats held the Senate? By how many votes?
     
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    I don't understand this post, shintao.
     
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    What was the margin during the 4 years that the Republicans controlled the Senate? Dumb ass.
     
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    Thanx NP,

    This is CRITICAL INFORMATION that TOTALLY ANNIHILATES the BLAME BUSH BULLSHIT for the ECONOMY COLLAPSE.

    The Republican talking heads are ABSOLUTELY LAME in not publicizing the facts as you did.

    I betcha 90% of the Anti- Obamarrhoidal LIEberrhoids, including ignorant me, were totally oblivious of the facts you posted.

    The excuse I have, albeit a very lame one, is that I was almost totally devoid of any interest in politics for many years and missed all those vital facts.

    Bottom line: The Republican Leaders are TOTALLY LAME for not revealing these VITAL STATS. But, in the final analysis, the bottom line is that NOW, ANY BULLSHIT about "BLAMING BUSH" for the economy.....GOES INTO IN THE TRASH CAN !!!!
     
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    Well, to clean up the mess, means kicking the corporatists out of government. If America revolts to get rid of them, there will be no change, but America will run in blood.

    We can legally vote them out, and that requires organization like the tea partys, except you have to have a plan, You have to know what the goals are, so people will vote your party members into office. In this case, at the state & federal levels, so you can open a Constitutional convention & have the votes to make the necessary changes needed, to take funding power away from Congress & the President, and give you that direct power.

    You see, Money$$$$ is power. It dictates what can be done. WE THE PEOPLE own government, but we do not own power. The IRS takes $$power$$ from you and gives it to Congress which is creating the mess regardless of what you think about it.

    So please read this 1 page blog on the All Volunteer Government (AVG), my plan to give you the responsibility to run your own government. All Volunteer Government Party (AVGP)
     
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    SHITao, Your Obamarrhoidal LIEberrhoid BULLSHIT notwithstanding, the bottom line is that it is the DEMS THAT CONTROLLED BOTH HOUSES since 2007 LEADING TO THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE !!!

    Also, you must note, that in those years, The Dems, using the 24/7 Lib controlled National Media HYPOCRITICALLY and TREACHEROUSLY DEMONIZED BUSH for the IRAQ WAR immediately after BUSH ANNIHILATED IRAQ'S 4th LARGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD in......TWENTY TWO DAYS !!!!

    The HYPOCRITICAL and TREACHEROUS DEMS realized that in the upcoming elections their chances were ZERO, NADA.....ZIPPO !!!

    The 24/7 Lib controlled National Media (there was ZERO opposition to it) began its RELENTLESS ATTACK against Bush GIVING THE GREEN LIGHT to IRAN and the other ISLAMOFASCIST Swine to begin the IRAQI QUAGMIRE......EACH of their successes were HUNDRED TIMES flared up by DENOUNCING BUSH !!!

    THE IRAQI QUAGMIRE......caused not only the 4000+ American dead, and tens of thousands wounded, plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqi casualties......but our present debacle in the Mid East

    And, BTW......The Clinton Adm yowled and howled for the military elimination of the Baghdad Psycho because Clinton's CIA and ALL the Intelligence Agencies of the major powers of the world (with the exception of China) were under the impression that Iraq had the WMDs.....and the MAJORITY of the Congressional Dems supported Bush, who using his judgment ONLY AGREED to what the Dems were yowling about and ACCOMPLISHED HIS MISSION....only to be sabotaged by the HYPOCVRITICAL and TREACHEROUS DEMS who made the TREACHEROUS 180 degree about face !!!

    This destroyed ANY CREDIBILTY BUSH HAD !!!

    From then on.....since 2007 the Dems had the HOUSE & SENATE.....and RULED AMERICA INTO THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE .

    And OBAMI SALAAMI is STILL using his DISASTROUS SOCIALISTIC/MARXIST AGENDA to ruin America further.

    KICK THIS POS OUT OF OFFICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE !!!

    Start with his Obamarrhoidal LIEberrhoid Stooges in Congress in the upcoming elections !!!!
     
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