A dialogue on Ethnic Relations

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by Aristotle, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Aristotle
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    The internet is amazing and due to the benefits of anonymity, many people express and equally amazing view of the world. A brief background of me just to make my point relavant:

    As a black man who grew up in Compton in a "black conscious " although ethnically accepting household, as a young kid I was aware of racism. My mother used to be a member of the Nation of Islam during the 60's so she indoctrinated me not to hate, but to be racially conscious and that society is still not always accepting. Growing up my friends were majority hispanic, since that was the demographic makeup. We all played together, ate at each other's houses had sleep overs etc racism wasn't even a thought until.....

    First time I encountered the "n word" was during a silly kick ball call (I was in grade school still) this white kid and I argued over something trivial he ended up calling me the "N word" so we fought. I was suspended for the day cause I didn't stop fighting after he was on the ground. I admit I was an angry kid because during the late 80's and 90's, Bloods and Crips were going at it. I stayed inside most of the time. I couldn't wear blue or red, couldn't wear british knights shoes or calvin klein.

    I eventually moved to Arizona where I completed middle and highschool. I my experience living there it had to be one of the most racist experiences in my life. Whites were both indirect and direct with their views on blacks. What I can say despite my experiences with whites there, there were some excuse me, a lot of cool ones.

    I remember when my mother and I were in an IHOP eating breakfast, some old white guy walked and apologized for slavery and began crying because he was ashamed that it was apart of U.S history. My mother hugged and told him "its not your fault."

    Since then I always took that philosophy of my mother (who passed already) that racism is like a blind man trying to see, but can only judge reality based on being blind. At 30 years of age and still living in a racially conscious society, we need to do more dialogue. Like the old man at the IHOP, who tried to apologize for something he never took part in, I think its not about remorse, but about acknowledging the human nature of cruelty in society. I apologize for the long post, thought I share that.
     
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    As a White guy I had the same though exact opposite experience growing up in Lakewood then moving to Long Beach for Middle School and High School (Long Beach Polytechnic 1979-81) just south of Compton. That was one of most racist experiences of my life. Blacks were both direct and indirect with their views on Whites.

    Still waiting for Blacks to apologize for all that racism.
     
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    You'll be waiting a long time.

    I used to work at St. Mary Medical Center which is a hospital not to far from Long Beach Poly. There is racial tensions all over between Samoans and Hispanics, Hispanics and Blacks, and Samoan and Blacks, or Asian and Blacks. That school and the surrounding area is a haven for gang activity.

    With all due respect to your experiences I think its an unrealistic expectation to have of blacks apologizing for what others have done. I've had all kinds of whites calling me out of my name in Arizona, but its an unfair expectation to assume whites who don't know me, nor the struggles I've encountered to apologize for something they didn't do. I think its time to let those things go.
     
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    you just laid out why you are not interested in a dialog, only lecturing whitey.

    Or plain getting even.
     
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    Hey aristotle - how can you oppose racism but support affirmative action, the govt mandated persecution of white people.?
     
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    Matthew Blue dog all the way!

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    Aristotle wants to even the playing field by destroying the white man....As non-whites aren't intelligent enough to compete with us. What a future these idiots are setting up for us.

    How fucking stupid.
     
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    Do you even understand what I'm saying?

    The 12% of African-Americans that inhabit the United States of America are not going to apologize for what happened to this man in highschool. How is it fair for the entire African-American population to apologize to this man for something many people didn't do? That is like me asking all white people (not just to apologize for slavery, racial profiling, systematic racism in the school and work force, for police brutality. You can't hold everyone else accountable for what they haven't done.
     
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    Who said I supported Affirmative Action? How the hell did you draw affirmative action from what I said?
     
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    Matthew I know for a fact I am smarter than you. I know for a fact that on an intellectual level you cannot touch me. I know for a fact the many black college intellectuals in and out of my circle. The question is can you compete with me?
     
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    Sounds to me like you didn't learn anything from your mother.
     

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