9.5 million have health ins because of ObamaCare

[Luddly Neddite]

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Obama's healthcare law, despite a rocky rollout and determined opposition from critics, already has spurred the largest expansion in health coverage in America in half a century, national surveys and enrollment data show.

As the law's initial enrollment period closes, at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gained coverage. Some have done so through marketplaces created by the law, some through other private insurance and others through Medicaid, which has expanded under the law in about half the states.

The tally draws from a review of state and federal enrollment reports, surveys and interviews with insurance executives and government officials nationwide.

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

 

[rightwinger]

Just you wait....

Obamacare will collapse any day now...any day now

 

[RKMBrown]

Just you wait....

Obamacare will collapse any day now...any day now

Liar. It's can't collapse, it has the unlimited funding of the tax payer to back it up no matter how fucking stupid and wasteful it is.

 

[peach174]

Isn't that just great!
While 16 to 20 million will lose theirs.
Estimate: 16 Million Americans Will Lose Current Coverage Because of Obamacare - Guy Benson

CBO has estimated that the number of people dislodged from their pre-Obamacare arrangements could reach 20 million, while other independent analyses have concluded that the eventual figure may be significantly higher. The low-ball estimates of 16-20 million would be the equivalent of the entire population of Florida losing coverage. CareFirst is the latest insurer to break the bad news to its customers:

 

[Mr. H.]

The ACA is nothing more than a statement on social welfare.

It's made that statement, and it's exposed itself as a failure.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Holy Cow people are stupid.
That is about all you can say on a thread like this.
Sad thing is, the OP and others posting here know it is a farce. But they are far more concerned about making their team look good than the truth.
Sad...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Its the law of the land, its not going anywhere and Americans are benefiting from it. Also heard this morning that even more money is being saved than previously thought.

Deal with it.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Its the law of the land, its not going anywhere and Americans are benefiting from it. Also heard this morning that even more money is being saved than previously thought.

Deal with it.

You believe everything you're told, we know.

 

[Zoom-boing]

So they rely on tallys, surveys, and interviews to find out how many previously uninsured people are now covered? Why don't they just ask the question on the website? Wouldn't that be accurate? Or did they, you know, just not bother to put the question on the website?

From link, at least 4.5M signed onto medicaid so they are takers. That leaves approx 5M newly insured. Well, isn't that a big fucking deal! Whoo hoo!

Hmm, from the link: "We are talking about a very small fraction of the country" who lost coverage, said Katherine Carman, a Rand economist who is overseeing the survey. Hmmm, at least 5M have lost covered due to the (un)aca but that number is 'just a small fraction'. Yet, 5M newly insured is a big fucking deal.

Leftist logic strikes again!

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

For what it's worth, the site DOES ask if you currently have health insurance. If you do, you have to fill in who it's with, how much it costs each month, and other info on it (like the policy number and if it's employer provided or not). I know, because the company I work for has switched from a group policy to individual policies from the healthcare.gov site. The policies we now have include better benefits, cover more of the charges at the dr's office, have a lower deductible/co-pay, and to top it off, the policies cost far less than what we were paying under a group plan.

 

[martybegan]

Its the law of the land, its not going anywhere and Americans are benefiting from it. Also heard this morning that even more money is being saved than previously thought.

Deal with it.

and not a single link, (never mind a fuck) was given.

 

[Zoom-boing]

For what it's worth, the site DOES ask if you currently have health insurance. If you do, you have to fill in who it's with, how much it costs each month, and other info on it (like the policy number and if it's employer provided or not). I know, because the company I work for has switched from a group policy to individual policies from the healthcare.gov site. The policies we now have include better benefits, cover more of the charges at the dr's office, have a lower deductible/co-pay, and to top it off, the policies cost far less than what we were paying under a group plan.

Thanks for that info.

If they ask on the website then I find it odd that in the article they're not stating that's where they're getting their info from.
[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION] -- in a different thread you posted that they didn't ask if you were previously insured. Aye is saying that they do.

???

 

[emilynghiem]

Now the next step is to shift the bill for this health care system
onto the Democrat members and leaders who believe in it and support it.

And allow equal freedom and responsibility for Republicans and others to set up and fund reforms of Veterans health care and assistance, and Prolife programs THEY believe in, too!

That should cover all people under the leadership and systems that represent
those taxpayers, without imposing any further religious, political or Constitutional conflict.

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Obama's healthcare law, despite a rocky rollout and determined opposition from critics, already has spurred the largest expansion in health coverage in America in half a century, national surveys and enrollment data show.

As the law's initial enrollment period closes, at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gained coverage. Some have done so through marketplaces created by the law, some through other private insurance and others through Medicaid, which has expanded under the law in about half the states.

The tally draws from a review of state and federal enrollment reports, surveys and interviews with insurance executives and government officials nationwide.

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

Yes, and let's allow the "right to life" movement to set up programs to save millions more lives of unborn children.

Oh wait, we would make Prolifers pay for their OWN programs WITHOUT using tax dollars
or forcing mandates on everyone else to pay for "their agenda," wouldn't we?

Sorry I forgot. Only "right to health" can be forced on the public against free choice, but "right to life" cannot be, because that is "anti-choice". Free choice only applies to abortion, not health care?

 

[emilynghiem]

P.S. regarding free choice, wouldn't the prolife advocates argue that "more lives" would be SAVED by banning abortion
than lives of women lost to illegal abortions? if the issue of "saving more" TRUMPS the principle of "free choice":
would you follow that line of reasoning if it were applied to PROLIFE policies, Luddly?

Its the law of the land, its not going anywhere and Americans are benefiting from it. Also heard this morning that even more money is being saved than previously thought.

Deal with it.

The Constitution is the law of the land.

And this ACA still does not answer to the doctors and medical programs that people cannot access which do not accept Obamacare.

Luddly: EVEN MORE MONEY would be saved if all people

* invested those same dollars in real estate to become financially independent,
or set up their own health companies, schools and coops, rather than paying insurance companies that do not provide sustainable medical
education or services. I have heard of some hospital systems merging or buying out insurance companies so that they are combined.

So why not have federal govt require all people to invest in business development?
Why stop with just insurance if that doesn't cover all health care costs for all people?

buying insurance alone does not cover the costs to the consumers.
So there are better ways to invest that covers ALL the costs and provisions of health care.
This system does not.

* incorporated spiritual healing to eliminate the causes of disease and crime.
Again, govt cannot mandate or regulate that!
So we still rely on resources and measures OUTSIDE the scope of govt and ACA.
Why is it wrong to want free choice to invest in that, when it is clearly needed anyway in addition to anything under govt?

The penalty and mandates under ACA should be removed to REWARD not punish people for investing equally in these other means of providing health care that isn't covered by govt.

To cover all people, the ACA should remain voluntary and optional, in addition to other systems necessary to cover the entire population, including developing the actual medical facilities and programs.

It makes no sense to penalize people who would rather invest in medical programs directly.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"We got our ObamaCare insurance, you should get yours"

 

[Mojo2]

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Obama's healthcare law, despite a rocky rollout and determined opposition from critics, already has spurred the largest expansion in health coverage in America in half a century, national surveys and enrollment data show.

As the law's initial enrollment period closes, at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gained coverage. Some have done so through marketplaces created by the law, some through other private insurance and others through Medicaid, which has expanded under the law in about half the states.

The tally draws from a review of state and federal enrollment reports, surveys and interviews with insurance executives and government officials nationwide.

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

9.5 million have health ins because of ObamaCare

Headline in the near future...

300,000,000 Americans Made Subjects of an Oppressive Government Because of Obamacare

 

[JakeStarkey]

Isn't that just great!
While 16 to 20 million will lose theirs.
Estimate: 16 Million Americans Will Lose Current Coverage Because of Obamacare - Guy Benson

CBO has estimated that the number of people dislodged from their pre-Obamacare arrangements could reach 20 million, while other independent analyses have concluded that the eventual figure may be significantly higher. The low-ball estimates of 16-20 million would be the equivalent of the entire population of Florida losing coverage. CareFirst is the latest insurer to break the bad news to its customers:

They wont' lose it.

They will change it.

They will get better care and not be drags on the rest of us.

Personal accountability, eh.

 

[Antares]

For what it's worth, the site DOES ask if you currently have health insurance. If you do, you have to fill in who it's with, how much it costs each month, and other info on it (like the policy number and if it's employer provided or not). I know, because the company I work for has switched from a group policy to individual policies from the healthcare.gov site. The policies we now have include better benefits, cover more of the charges at the dr's office, have a lower deductible/co-pay, and to top it off, the policies cost far less than what we were paying under a group plan.

Thanks for that info.

If they ask on the website then I find it odd that in the article they're not stating that's where they're getting their info from.
[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION] -- in a different thread you posted that they didn't ask if you were previously insured. Aye is saying that they do.

???

It doesn't ask if you DON'T have insurance, and it leaves it opened ended on the page that attempts to find out. The way it is worded does not allow for a DEFINITIVE answer.
If I can ever get into the damned thing I'll post a screenshot

 

[Luddly Neddite]

P.S. regarding free choice, wouldn't the prolife advocates argue that "more lives" would be SAVED by banning abortion
than lives of women lost to illegal abortions? if the issue of "saving more" TRUMPS the principle of "free choice":
would you follow that line of reasoning if it were applied to PROLIFE policies, Luddly?

Its the law of the land, its not going anywhere and Americans are benefiting from it. Also heard this morning that even more money is being saved than previously thought.

Deal with it.

The Constitution is the law of the land.

And this ACA still does not answer to the doctors and medical programs that people cannot access which do not accept Obamacare.

Luddly: EVEN MORE MONEY would be saved if all people

* invested those same dollars in real estate to become financially independent,
or set up their own health companies, schools and coops, rather than paying insurance companies that do not provide sustainable medical
education or services. I have heard of some hospital systems merging or buying out insurance companies so that they are combined.

So why not have federal govt require all people to invest in business development?
Why stop with just insurance if that doesn't cover all health care costs for all people?

buying insurance alone does not cover the costs to the consumers.
So there are better ways to invest that covers ALL the costs and provisions of health care.
This system does not.

* incorporated spiritual healing to eliminate the causes of disease and crime.
Again, govt cannot mandate or regulate that!
So we still rely on resources and measures OUTSIDE the scope of govt and ACA.
Why is it wrong to want free choice to invest in that, when it is clearly needed anyway in addition to anything under govt?

The penalty and mandates under ACA should be removed to REWARD not punish people for investing equally in these other means of providing health care that isn't covered by govt.

To cover all people, the ACA should remain voluntary and optional, in addition to other systems necessary to cover the entire population, including developing the actual medical facilities and programs.

It makes no sense to penalize people who would rather invest in medical programs directly.

Why is it, every time someone you're after posts about apples, you go off on a rant about oranges?

Or, are you saying you rub dirt on your boo boos?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

For what it's worth, the site DOES ask if you currently have health insurance. If you do, you have to fill in who it's with, how much it costs each month, and other info on it (like the policy number and if it's employer provided or not). I know, because the company I work for has switched from a group policy to individual policies from the healthcare.gov site. The policies we now have include better benefits, cover more of the charges at the dr's office, have a lower deductible/co-pay, and to top it off, the policies cost far less than what we were paying under a group plan.

Thanks for that info.

If they ask on the website then I find it odd that in the article they're not stating that's where they're getting their info from.
[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION] -- in a different thread you posted that they didn't ask if you were previously insured. Aye is saying that they do.

???

It doesn't ask if you DON'T have insurance, and it leaves it opened ended on the page that attempts to find out. The way it is worded does not allow for a DEFINITIVE answer.
If I can ever get into the damned thing I'll post a screenshot

LOL

Its working fine.