7 New Taxes In Obamacare Hitting The Middle-Class

mudwhistle

Diamond Member
Gold Supporting Member
Jul 21, 2009
130,387
66,608
2,645
Headmaster's Office, Hogwarts
So much for strengthening the Middle-class. These new taxes that are hitting people that make less than the promised $250k income bracket are about to become well known. This is why Obamacare was so secret. Why we had to pass it before we found out what was in it. Why Paul Gruber wasn't lying for the first time when he said they had to write the ACA with tortured language to get it to pass:


Obamacare: Seven New Taxes on Citizens Earning Less than $250,000
obama-vs-house-payroll-tax-cut.jpg

by Robert Allen Bonelli29 Jun 2012980

While we were all debating the cost to our liberty due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), we were ignoring the cost to our pockets. If there ever was a reason for bipartisan rage about this law, it should be on the twenty – yes, twenty – hidden new taxes of this law. Making matters even more relevant is that seven of these taxes are levied on all citizens regardless of income. Hence, Mr. Obama’s promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 is just another falsehood associated with this legislation.
The first, and best known, of these seven taxes that will hit all Americans as a result of Obamacare is the Individual Mandate Tax (no longer concealed as a penalty). This provision will require a couple to pay the higher of a base tax of $1,360 per year, or 2.5% of adjusted growth income starting with lower base tax and rising to this level by 2016. Individuals will see a base tax of $695 and families a base tax of $2,085 per year by 2016.

Next up is the Medicine Cabinet Tax that took effect in 2011. This tax prohibits reimbursement of expenses for over-the-counter medicine, with the lone exception of insulin, from an employee’s pre-tax dollar funded Health Saving Account (HSA), Flexible Spending Account (FSA) or Health Reimbursement Account (HRA). This provision hurts middle class earners particularly hard since they earn enough to actually pay federal taxes, but not enough to make this restriction negligible.

The Flexible Spending Account (FSA) Cap, which will begin in 2013, is perhaps the most hurtful provision to the middle class. This part of the law imposes a cap of $2,500 per year (which is now unlimited) on the amount of pre-tax dollars that could be deposited into these accounts. Why is this particularly hurtful to the middle class? It is because funds in these accounts may be used to pay for special needs education for special needs children in the United States. Tuition rates for this type of special education can easily exceed $14,000 per year and the use of pre-tax dollars has helped many middle income families.

Another direct hit to the middle class is the Medical Itemized Deduction Hurdle which is currently 7.5% of adjusted gross income. This is the hurdle that must be met before medical expenses over that hurdle can be taken as a deduction on federal income taxes. Obamacare raises this hurdle to 10% of adjusted gross income beginning in 2013. Consider the middle class family with $80,000 of adjusted gross income and $8,000 of medical expenses. Currently, that family can get some relief from being able to take a $2,000 deduction (7.5% X $80,000 = $6,000; $8,000 -$6,000 = $2,000). An increase to 10% would eliminate the deduction in this example and if that family was paying a 25% federal tax rate, the real cost of that lost deduction would be $500.

The fifth new tax on the middle class, and all Americans, is the Health Savings Account (HSA) Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10% currently to 20% beginning in 2013. This provision actually sets these accounts apart from Investment Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and other tax advantaged accounts, all of which remain with a 10% early withdrawal tax.

Another regressive tax that is part of this law began in 2010 and that is the Indoor Tanning Services Tax, which places a 10% excise tax on people using tanning salons. While some may regard this as insignificant, the broader implication is that this act of taxation is a blatant move by the federal government to control the behavior of citizens. This provision, as does the Individual Mandate and as Justice Kennedy said during the oral arguments on the constitutionality of the law said, “….fundamentally changes the relationship between the federal government and the citizen.”

The seventh new tax that directly impacts the middle class, along with all citizens, is the Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans or the “Cadillac” Health Insurance Plan Tax. These are plans that provide extensive coverage and that are generally fully paid for, or largely paid for, by employers. This provision imposes a 40% excise tax on the employer-paid premium on taxpayers who are covered by such plans, beginning in 2018. The reason it begins in 2018 is because most unionized workers are covered by plans that fall under this definition and a deferral was made to spare union members from this tax for at least a period of time.

Read more here.....Obamacare Seven New Taxes on Citizens Earning Less than 250 000 - Breitbart
 
Hey Muddy, how many of those taxes effect you personally? All of them? None of them? You got 14 thousand dollars to put in your flex account for your kid with disabilities? Why should one parent be able to shelter 14k from taxes and another not be able to shelter any money from taxes. And they both have "special needs" children? I thought you wanted a more "fair" tax system. And less deficits. More accountability.

And didn't you try this bullshit thread once before?
 
I know for a fact that companies are using the ACA as a means to actually cut costs. OR at least cut costs in one segment of the company to pay for the added expenses in another. Thus those being cut are hurt and those who now cost more are getting very little more for the added expense.

On a positive note at least now illegals can get coverage for virtually free paid for by those working.

Unions can suck lemons. They supported this BS and now they are crying like little girls because they didn't realize it was going to screw them. But you and I both know what is going to happen. Obama will sign an edict exempting the Unions from the effects of ACA. I predict it will be one of the last things he does in office. Might be part of why the worse was put off until 2018. Then after he does if a president with some integrity tries to reverse his edict they will be labeled anti-union and such. It is all such a crock of BS.
 
Freewilly, what kind (if any) health insurance do you have?

My wife has a company plan that covers me. Thanks to Obamacare, my oldest can't be denied coverage because she has had cervical cancer.

My next two kids are still in school and thanks to Obamacare are still covered under my wife's health care plan.

It's really awful being able to see your kids have health insurance. Awful I tell you. Just awful.

Hey and nice projection as to what YOU think will happen in the future. Any of your other projections come true?
You must have a crystal ball telling you all this shit. Is that correct?
 
Freewilly, what kind (if any) health insurance do you have?

My wife has a company plan that covers me. Thanks to Obamacare, my oldest can't be denied coverage because she has had cervical cancer.

My next two kids are still in school and thanks to Obamacare are still covered under my wife's health care plan.

It's really awful being able to see your kids have health insurance. Awful I tell you. Just awful.

Hey and nice projection as to what YOU think will happen in the future. Any of your other projections come true?
You must have a crystal ball telling you all this shit. Is that correct?
Well the old I got mine screw everyone else.
You din't refute any of the OPs points,just posted nonsense.
Now if you can counter those points with real facts not some emotional,it just can't be true crap,then you might have a point,until then ya got nothing,keep trying.
 
The complaints about the taxes in ObamaCare in the OP are entirely legitimate. Thanks for pointing these out, mudwhistle.

I was aware of most of them. I did not know the medical itemized deduction floor had been raised to ten percent. I don't know how I missed that.

The Cadillac insurance tax doesn't bother me. It's a labor union boondoggle, and Obama showed his true colors when he personally raised the exemption ceiling higher than what was in the original legislation.

These and other taxes were put in the ACA to make ObamaCare pay for itself, unlike the GOP's Medicare D which was a trillion dollar entitlement program which did not pay for itself.

Some people are under the impression our roads are free, and a lot of people think all those subsidies for health insurance bought through the exchanges are free. It is not only right to point out who is paying for them, but a moral obligation.

It is great that more people are getting health insurance, but they should know it is coming at the expense of others. They need to have some gratitude toward those who are carrying them, instead of a sense of entitlement.

Stop pretending all this stuff is "free".

Obama isn't buying your insurance. We are.
 
Last edited:
As most things in a very divided political environment, one person's "tax hike" is another person's "closing of tax loop holes."
 
oh well, it' has our Dear Leaders name attached to it so we should just all be happy and pay up. you can bow to him after
 
As most things in a very divided political environment, one person's "tax hike" is another person's "closing of tax loop holes."

One person's "free health insurance subsidy" is another person's higher tax bill.
 
Did people who voted for this clown really believe they could get something for nothing? The guy is an unrepentant liar, maybe if the middle class gets fucked over by these liberal liars enough times they will learn their lesson.
 
My dear right wingers......Have you EVER wondered why we are the ONLY industrialized nation to not have affordable health insurance???
And before you repeat the line that Fox told you to repeat that we have the "best" health care delivery, know that we rank at about 40 in the World Health Organization's ranking in longevity and morbidity......and for that, we pay almost triple than those other countries who have done better than us in that ranking....

Before you retort to "I hate Obama, regardless....." try to THINK on your own.
 
My dear right wingers......Have you EVER wondered why we are the ONLY industrialized nation to not have affordable health insurance???
And before you repeat the line that Fox told you to repeat that we have the "best" health care delivery, know that we rank at about 40 in the World Health Organization's ranking in longevity and morbidity......and for that, we pay almost triple than those other countries who have done better than us in that ranking....

Before you retort to "I hate Obama, regardless....." try to THINK on your own.

Dear entitled leftwinger. you want socialist health care where others pays for you. MOVE to country that has it
 
Hey Muddy, how many of those taxes effect you personally? All of them? None of them? You got 14 thousand dollars to put in your flex account for your kid with disabilities? Why should one parent be able to shelter 14k from taxes and another not be able to shelter any money from taxes. And they both have "special needs" children? I thought you wanted a more "fair" tax system. And less deficits. More accountability.

And didn't you try this bullshit thread once before?

I guess you never took the exemptions for those kids of yours, did you? Of course not, otherwise you would be sheltering income from taxes that people without children couldn't, I'm sure you wouldn't be that hypocritical, would you?
 
7 New Taxes In Obamacare Hitting The Middle-Class

it was never about being affordable or better health care

it was about getting the gov't foot more buried in the people's ass
on health care
 

Forum List

Back
Top