64% Say Tax the Rich!

[georgephillip]

good then do it, and when "the people" want to come after YOUR ALL'S earnings, I say GO FOR IT.

Who is going after "ALL" of anyone's earnings? When, in our history, have we ever gone to war and NOT raised taxes? Can you find an instance? Have fun looking, but I'll save you some time. It hasn't happened...until now. We are currently engaged on TWO FRONTS in wars that are not paid for. We cannot keep up this pace and NOT raise taxes. Our deficits are LARGELY the result of two wars and the Bush tax cuts. If you are serious about decreasing the debt and deficit of our country, then raising taxes has to be part of the conversation (as well as cutting military spending).

The War on Terror, Hellooooooooooooooooo! Bush CUT TAXES!




Now, let an adult explain something to you. The War on Terror did not raise the deficit that much. OBAMA RAISED THE DEFICIT!

US Federal Deficit As Percent Of GDP

2001 -1.25
2002 1.48
2003 3.39
2004 3.48
2005 2.52
2006 1.85
2007 1.14
2008 3.18
2009 9.91
2010 10.64

US Federal Deficit as percent of GDP - Charts Tables History

Now THAT is the truth about the DEFICIT. The wars did not raise the deficit as Obama would lie to you. As a percent of GDP the war was very small.

What raised the deficit was OBAMA SPENDING. He didn't triple the deficit, he QUADRUPLED IT!

The answer to that is NOT raising taxes, it is ending the activity that caused it in the first place. YOU HAVE TO CUT SPENDING!

Even in Obama took all the money these rich made HE WOULD NOT PAY OFF THE DEFICIT.

The government spends more than it takes in!

Now that is the truth, you refuse to see, because it isn't what your wonderful teachers, professors and other liberal "experts" are telling you, BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

The fact is, the deficit was not that high during the Bush admin. IT ROSE UNDER OBAMA.

Deal with it.

Bush moved into the White House in 2001 when the deficit was at -1.25% of GDP.

Bush moved out of the White House in 2009 when the deficit stood at 9.91% of GDP.

Republicans AND Democrats AND Wall Street ARE the problem.

Deal with that or stop lying about being free.

 

[Ame®icano]

A national McClatchy-Marist poll shows a 64% to 33% spread in favor of increasing taxes on incomes above $250,000 instead of slashing Medicare and Medicaid.

"At the same time, they say that the government should not raise the legal debt ceiling, which the government must do soon to borrow more money, despite warnings that failing to do so would force the government into default, credit markets into turmoil and the economy into a tailspin."

"By 69-24 percent, voters oppose raising the legal ceiling for debt. That includes Democrats, who oppose it by 53-36 percent, independents, who oppose it by 74-22 percent, and Republicans, who oppose it by 79-16 percent."

Views on cutting defense spending are more mixed. While voters oppose cuts to Medicare and Medicaid by 80-18 percent only 44% support cutting the Pentagon with 54% opposed.

"Other findings:

* Only 44 percent of voters approve of Obama's job performance, while 49 percent disapprove. That was down from 48 percent approval in January, and marked the 17th straight month that his approval has been below 50 percent;
* Only 34 percent of voters approve, and 61 percent disapprove, of the way he's handling the budget deficit, projected to total about $1.6 trillion this year;
* Only 30 percent approve of the way Republicans in Congress are doing their job, while 63 percent disapprove."

Poll: Best Way to Fight Deficits: Raise Taxes on the Rich | Common Dreams

64% of liberal voters?

 

[georgephillip]

If it's class warfare to increase taxes on billionaires, was it not also class warefare when their taxes were reduced?

I guess my question here is this..

Aren't all tax laws basically a form of class warfare?

Every one seem effects different classes differently, true?

Is it going to require the Second Great(er) Depression to convince enough Americans that all governments socialize cost and privatize profit for the benefit of their wealthiest citizens?

Funny, since that was the attitude that CAUSED the great depression and made it last as long as it did. See the Smoot/Hawley tarrif tax and FDR's New Deal.

The greed of America's richest 1% caused the Great Depression.

"1. Stock Market Crash of 1929
Many believe erroneously that the stock market crash that occurred on Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929 is one and the same with the Great Depression. In fact, it was one of the major causes that led to the Great Depression. Two months after the original crash in October, stockholders had lost more than $40 billion dollars. Even though the stock market began to regain some of its losses, by the end of 1930, it just was not enough and America truly entered what is called the Great Depression.

"2. Bank Failures
Throughout the 1930s over 9,000 banks failed. Bank deposits were uninsured and thus as banks failed people simply lost their savings. Surviving banks, unsure of the economic situation and concerned for their own survival, stopped being as willing to create new loans. This exacerbated the situation leading to less and less expenditures.

"3. Reduction in Purchasing Across the Board
With the stock market crash and the fears of further economic woes, individuals from all classes stopped purchasing items. This then led to a reduction in the number of items produced and thus a reduction in the workforce. As people lost their jobs, they were unable to keep up with paying for items they had bought through installment plans and their items were repossessed. More and more inventory began to accumulate. The unemployment rate rose above 25% which meant, of course, even less spending to help alleviate the economic situation.

"4. American Economic Policy with Europe
As businesses began failing, the government created the Smoot-Hawley Tariff in 1930 to help protect American companies. This charged a high tax for imports thereby leading to less trade between America and foreign countries along with some economic retaliation.

"5. Drought Conditions
While not a direct cause of the Great Depression, the drought that occurred in the Mississippi Valley in 1930 was of such proportions that many could not even pay their taxes or other debts and had to sell their farms for no profit to themselves. This was the topic of John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath."

Great Depression - Top Five Causes of the Great Depression

 

[Stephanie]

A national McClatchy-Marist poll shows a 64% to 33% spread in favor of increasing taxes on incomes above $250,000 instead of slashing Medicare and Medicaid.

"At the same time, they say that the government should not raise the legal debt ceiling, which the government must do soon to borrow more money, despite warnings that failing to do so would force the government into default, credit markets into turmoil and the economy into a tailspin."

"By 69-24 percent, voters oppose raising the legal ceiling for debt. That includes Democrats, who oppose it by 53-36 percent, independents, who oppose it by 74-22 percent, and Republicans, who oppose it by 79-16 percent."

Views on cutting defense spending are more mixed. While voters oppose cuts to Medicare and Medicaid by 80-18 percent only 44% support cutting the Pentagon with 54% opposed.

"Other findings:

* Only 44 percent of voters approve of Obama's job performance, while 49 percent disapprove. That was down from 48 percent approval in January, and marked the 17th straight month that his approval has been below 50 percent;
* Only 34 percent of voters approve, and 61 percent disapprove, of the way he's handling the budget deficit, projected to total about $1.6 trillion this year;
* Only 30 percent approve of the way Republicans in Congress are doing their job, while 63 percent disapprove."

Poll: Best Way to Fight Deficits: Raise Taxes on the Rich | Common Dreams

How about we tax the poor? See how they like it.

I say we tax only those who identify themselves as liberals, see how they like it.

 

[georgephillip]

This poll shows the same results as a number of recent polls and all people can do is disparage the poll? Increasing taxes for millionaires is what people want. Why is that so difficult to understand?

good then do it, and when "the people" want to come after YOUR ALL'S earnings, I say GO FOR IT.

What don't these idiots get about the economy?

We are at high unemployment and the answer is to go after the very people that produce jobs?

Oh, great idea! (extreme sarcasm alert)

If the government took every last time the "millionaires" made, they wouldn't run this government for a week!

The government borrows more than they take in! You can't TAX your way out of that!

The ONLY SOLUTION is to CUT SPENDING!

But liberals are so INVESTED in buying votes with their socialism, they will try to sell tax hikes at any cost. DESPITE THE FACT IT WON'T WORK.

As long as they think it will buy enough votes for the next election, they don't care if we go the way of Europe, especially Greece.

It's disgusting!

What don't conservatives understand about workers/consumers?

When you get rid of a worker you get rid of a consumer.

Next question: How do you lower taxes and deficits at the same time? Maybe you can enlighten us on why 2009 state tax revenues were 13% below where they were in 2007?

"When this shortfall was combined with more unemployed people filing for state assistance, states saw an average budget gap of 21% between 2009 and 2011."

Bonus Question: Why hasn't Chris Christie been able to reduce New Jersey's unemployment rate below 9%?

See if you can answer any of these questions without using the words "Wall Street."Ideology Posing as Reality: Conservative Politics vs. Economics 101 | Truthout

 

[Vanquish]

Why is it that some conservatives bash liberals for their suspiciousness of the rich, when they themselves make all poor people out to be lazy bastards who are leeches and lazabouts?

You do realize that the majority of poor people arent poor because they are lazy or want handouts...but they either a) come from a poor family b) have suffered medical/physical problems c) the jobs available to poor people aren't able to pull them out of poverty

That's not to say that people can't rise up from such impediments...but it's not the easy thing some conservatives want to make it out to be. If people could get jobs just because they wanted one...we wouldnt be at the unemployment levels we're at now!

Not only are most poor people able and willing to work hard, they do so when given the chance. The real trouble has to do with such problems as minimum wages and lack of access to the education necessary for obtaining a better-paying job.

With the flight of the middle class, including employers, from the cities and into the suburbs -opportunities for the inner-city poor to find adequate jobs are even more limited.

No one wants to take all the money "the rich" have - anyone spouting that shit is just throwing up straw men. If we're going to get out of this hole...as a country...those that can are going to have to step up.

 

[georgephillip]

You and Chris Hedges are on the same page.

"The two most destructive forces of human nature—greed and envy—drive the financiers, the bankers, the corporate mandarins and the leaders of our two major political parties, all of whom profit from this system.

"They place themselves at the center of creation.

"They disdain or ignore the cries of those below them. They take from us our rights, our dignity and thwart our capacity for resistance. They seek to make us prisoners in our own land. They view human beings and the natural world as mere commodities to exploit until exhaustion or collapse. Human suffering, wars, climate change, poverty, it is all the price of business. Nothing is sacred.

"The Lord of Profit is the Lord of Death..."

Chris Hedges: Throw Out the Money Changers - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

 

[martybegan]

Why is it that some conservatives bash liberals for their suspiciousness of the rich, when they themselves make all poor people out to be lazy bastards who are leeches and lazabouts?

You do realize that the majority of poor people arent poor because they are lazy or want handouts...but they either a) come from a poor family b) have suffered medical/physical problems c) the jobs available to poor people aren't able to pull them out of poverty

That's not to say that people can't rise up from such impediments...but it's not the easy thing some conservatives want to make it out to be. If people could get jobs just because they wanted one...we wouldnt be at the unemployment levels we're at now!

Not only are most poor people able and willing to work hard, they do so when given the chance. The real trouble has to do with such problems as minimum wages and lack of access to the education necessary for obtaining a better-paying job.

With the flight of the middle class, including employers, from the cities and into the suburbs -opportunities for the inner-city poor to find adequate jobs are even more limited.

No one wants to take all the money "the rich" have - anyone spouting that shit is just throwing up straw men. If we're going to get out of this hole...as a country...those that can are going to have to step up.

The issue is that why is it the federal government's job to right percived wrongs such as this? If people want to help those of lesser means better themselves, why don't they do the leg work, make organizations that do such things, and get people to fund such organizations.

The reason they do not is that it is far easier to use the government to do it, using the bully pulpit of the IRS to collect the funds, and the federal buracracy to do the work for them. My issue is that this was never the intent of the federal level of government, and that if any goverment should be involved in it, it should be at the state level, and funded by state funds.

 

[georgephillip]

There are harsh fiscal realities staring all of us in the face that only the federal government has the power to address.

Consider the CBO's early 2008 projection (before Wall Street's latest looting) that "debt" as a percent of GDP would fall from 36.8% to 22.6% at the end of 2018.

Compare that to the CBO's revised 2011 forecast which has "debt" soaring to 75.3% of GDP in 2018.

That $10 trillion swing for end-year 2018 debt is due almost entirely "to the severe recession that followed the financial crisis of late 2008."

"This lowered output and employment, and therefore reduced tax revenue."

Imho, that severe recession was cause by white collar control and security fraud occurring on Wall Street, and only the federal government has the power to bring those responsible to justice.

But not unless millions of voters reject Republicans AND Democrats at the polls in 2012.

Fiscal Conservatives Dodge $10 Trillion Debt: Simon Johnson - Bloomberg

 

[Stephanie]

Why is it that some conservatives bash liberals for their suspiciousness of the rich, when they themselves make all poor people out to be lazy bastards who are leeches and lazabouts?

You do realize that the majority of poor people arent poor because they are lazy or want handouts...but they either a) come from a poor family b) have suffered medical/physical problems c) the jobs available to poor people aren't able to pull them out of poverty

That's not to say that people can't rise up from such impediments...but it's not the easy thing some conservatives want to make it out to be. If people could get jobs just because they wanted one...we wouldnt be at the unemployment levels we're at now!

Not only are most poor people able and willing to work hard, they do so when given the chance. The real trouble has to do with such problems as minimum wages and lack of access to the education necessary for obtaining a better-paying job.

With the flight of the middle class, including employers, from the cities and into the suburbs -opportunities for the inner-city poor to find adequate jobs are even more limited.

No one wants to take all the money "the rich" have - anyone spouting that shit is just throwing up straw men. If we're going to get out of this hole...as a country...those that can are going to have to step up.

wow, I guess when I get in a hole I can come to you and ASK you to STEP UP? Will YOU be writing me a check or in cash?

or
you would tell me, you dug it you dig yourself out.

 

[georgephillip]

Who dug the $10 trillion hole?

In early January of 2008 the CBO predicted debt as a percent of GDP would fall from 36.8% in 2008 to 22.6% at the end of 2018.

"In contrast, the latest CBO forecast (2011) has debt soaring to 75.3% of GDP in 2018.

"What caused this stunning reversal, which in dollar terms works out to a $10 trillion swing for end-year 2018 debt, from $5.1 trillion to $15.8 trillion?"

Specifically, what did Wall Street contribute to this hole?

Fiscal Conservatives Dodge $10 Trillion Debt: Simon Johnson - Bloomberg

 

[editec]

Lets just do whatever the mob wants. That's democracy isn't it?

blah blah blah.. you'd call it a fucking mandate if the mob were spouting YOUR opinions.



Tax the rich and tariff imports on nations that don't trade evenly with the US.

We did that with the Smoot/Hawley tarriff tax. IT WAS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER!

No we didn't.


Per usual you don't really know what you're talking about.

Look it up, lad.

Smoot Hawley is a rather limited tariff.

It's effect on the economy was minor.

 

[The Gadfly]

Liberals have been whipping up class envy and class hate for so many years now, that I'm frankly surprised everyone doesn't hate anyone who makes more, or has more, than themselves. That's a hell of a way to get votes, appealing to hate and envy, and you may rest assured, no good will come of it. You libs have bought into the whole Marxist class struggle, class warfare thing; all that has ever produced anywhere is discord and eventually, bloodshed. Don't worry, GP; eventually you'll likely get your war, and a messy miserable thing it will be; at best, you'll reap the fruits of murder, and at worst, you'll get slaughtered. I'd predict the latter, myself; there are a lot more people with actual combat experience on the right, than on the left. In the end, it won't matter anyway; all you'll get, is scorched earth. If you people ever thought beyond the moment (you never do) you'd realize the best you'll get by trying to punish achievement, is a miserable society, in which all are equally miserable. The way to "get your share" is simple, have the intelligence and the industriousness to earn it, rather than expecting government to steal it for you. The part that amuses me, is that most of the cowards and losers on the left, lack the courage, the intelligence, or the skills to even do their own stealing, so you lot want the might of the government to do it for you-what a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

 

[edthecynic]

Liberals have been whipping up class envy and class hate for so many years now, that I'm frankly surprised everyone doesn't hate anyone who makes more, or has more, than themselves. That's a hell of a way to get votes, appealing to hate and envy, and you may rest assured, no good will come of it. You libs have bought into the whole Marxist class struggle, class warfare thing; all that has ever produced anywhere is discord and eventually, bloodshed. Don't worry, GP; eventually you'll likely get your war, and a messy miserable thing it will be; at best, you'll reap the fruits of murder, and at worst, you'll get slaughtered. I'd predict the latter, myself; there are a lot more people with actual combat experience on the right, than on the left. In the end, it won't matter anyway; all you'll get, is scorched earth. If you people ever thought beyond the moment (you never do) you'd realize the best you'll get by trying to punish achievement, is a miserable society, in which all are equally miserable. The way to "get your share" is simple, have the intelligence and the industriousness to earn it, rather than expecting government to steal it for you. The part that amuses me, is that most of the cowards and losers on the left, lack the courage, the intelligence, or the skills to even do their own stealing, so you lot want the might of the government to do it for you-what a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

The GOP hate radio lie that the Libs are ENVIOUS of the rich could only be believed by someone stupid enough to be a CON$ervative, because you have to believe that Libs are ENVIOUS of themselves!!!!!

Libs on the average are more financially successful than the lazy slacker CON$. But these ENVIOUS CON$ have a simple plan to "get their share" that they lack the intelligence and industriousness to earn. They simply DECLARE themselves more successful. Problem solved allowing them to accuse the more productive Libs of being lazy thieves.
What a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

 

[The Gadfly]

Liberals have been whipping up class envy and class hate for so many years now, that I'm frankly surprised everyone doesn't hate anyone who makes more, or has more, than themselves. That's a hell of a way to get votes, appealing to hate and envy, and you may rest assured, no good will come of it. You libs have bought into the whole Marxist class struggle, class warfare thing; all that has ever produced anywhere is discord and eventually, bloodshed. Don't worry, GP; eventually you'll likely get your war, and a messy miserable thing it will be; at best, you'll reap the fruits of murder, and at worst, you'll get slaughtered. I'd predict the latter, myself; there are a lot more people with actual combat experience on the right, than on the left. In the end, it won't matter anyway; all you'll get, is scorched earth. If you people ever thought beyond the moment (you never do) you'd realize the best you'll get by trying to punish achievement, is a miserable society, in which all are equally miserable. The way to "get your share" is simple, have the intelligence and the industriousness to earn it, rather than expecting government to steal it for you. The part that amuses me, is that most of the cowards and losers on the left, lack the courage, the intelligence, or the skills to even do their own stealing, so you lot want the might of the government to do it for you-what a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

The GOP hate radio lie that the Libs are ENVIOUS of the rich could only be believed by someone stupid enough to be a CON$ervative, because you have to believe that Libs are ENVIOUS of themselves!!!!!

Libs on the average are more financially successful than the lazy slacker CON$. But these ENVIOUS CON$ have a simple plan to "get their share" that they lack the intelligence and industriousness to earn. They simply DECLARE themselves more successful. Problem solved allowing them to accuse the more productive Libs of being lazy thieves.
What a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

I feel sure I've been more successful, than a liberal loon who can only respond with an argumentum ad hominem. Do you even know what that is, or did you sleep through elementary logic, as well as economics? What's the matter; spent your education getting politically indoctrinated, instead of actually learning something of value? See, I can do that too. Argue the point, or STFU!

 

[edthecynic]

Liberals have been whipping up class envy and class hate for so many years now, that I'm frankly surprised everyone doesn't hate anyone who makes more, or has more, than themselves. That's a hell of a way to get votes, appealing to hate and envy, and you may rest assured, no good will come of it. You libs have bought into the whole Marxist class struggle, class warfare thing; all that has ever produced anywhere is discord and eventually, bloodshed. Don't worry, GP; eventually you'll likely get your war, and a messy miserable thing it will be; at best, you'll reap the fruits of murder, and at worst, you'll get slaughtered. I'd predict the latter, myself; there are a lot more people with actual combat experience on the right, than on the left. In the end, it won't matter anyway; all you'll get, is scorched earth. If you people ever thought beyond the moment (you never do) you'd realize the best you'll get by trying to punish achievement, is a miserable society, in which all are equally miserable. The way to "get your share" is simple, have the intelligence and the industriousness to earn it, rather than expecting government to steal it for you. The part that amuses me, is that most of the cowards and losers on the left, lack the courage, the intelligence, or the skills to even do their own stealing, so you lot want the might of the government to do it for you-what a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

The GOP hate radio lie that the Libs are ENVIOUS of the rich could only be believed by someone stupid enough to be a CON$ervative, because you have to believe that Libs are ENVIOUS of themselves!!!!!

Libs on the average are more financially successful than the lazy slacker CON$. But these ENVIOUS CON$ have a simple plan to "get their share" that they lack the intelligence and industriousness to earn. They simply DECLARE themselves more successful. Problem solved allowing them to accuse the more productive Libs of being lazy thieves.
What a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

I feel sure I've been more successful, than a liberal loon who can only respond with an argumentum ad hominem. Do you even know what that is, or did you sleep through elementary logic, as well as economics? What's the matter; spent your education getting politically indoctrinated, instead of actually learning something of value? See, I can do that too. Argue the point, or STFU!

I obviously know what argumentum ad hominem is, it is both of your posts!!! See the first quote in my sig.

And I did argue the point which you could not rebut so you went on your argumentum ad hominem rant. The fact remains that Libs are MORE financially successful than CON$ and therefore would have to be envious of themselves for your earlier post to make sense!

Get a job, you lazy slacker, and you too could be as successful as the Libs you envy so much.

 

[mnbasketball]

people have done things to help people better themselves and share in the gold of the american system, and the republicans have fought them at every turn. The unions are for the benefit of people who are trying to be compensated fairly for their efforts, and the right is for the rich and those who don't think you should have any say in what is required of you or how much you should get, they will decide.

 

[Antiderivative]

I love how Republicans think that the government is a leech of the rich. The rich pay 17% effective tax rate, but Republicans don't consider that they get a very nice return on that 17%, from blatant cronyism to patent laws, which grant very nice economic rents.

They can't see the forest from the trees.

 

[The Gadfly]

The GOP hate radio lie that the Libs are ENVIOUS of the rich could only be believed by someone stupid enough to be a CON$ervative, because you have to believe that Libs are ENVIOUS of themselves!!!!!

Libs on the average are more financially successful than the lazy slacker CON$. But these ENVIOUS CON$ have a simple plan to "get their share" that they lack the intelligence and industriousness to earn. They simply DECLARE themselves more successful. Problem solved allowing them to accuse the more productive Libs of being lazy thieves.
What a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

I feel sure I've been more successful, than a liberal loon who can only respond with an argumentum ad hominem. Do you even know what that is, or did you sleep through elementary logic, as well as economics? What's the matter; spent your education getting politically indoctrinated, instead of actually learning something of value? See, I can do that too. Argue the point, or STFU!

I obviously know what argumentum ad hominem is, it is both of your posts!!! See the first quote in my sig.

And I did argue the point which you could not rebut so you went on your argumentum ad hominem rant. The fact remains that Libs are MORE financially successful than CON$ and therefore would have to be envious of themselves for your earlier post to make sense!

Get a job, you lazy slacker, and you too could be as successful as the Libs you envy so much.

I'm retired, after a very successful career. Envy you? Who the hell do you think you are, Warren Buffett? I don'r envy you, I despise your thieving political ideology. If you feel guilty for being successful, that's YOUR problem, and I suggest you seek your absolution with your own money, not someone else's. If you allowed yourself to be indoctrinated by your professors at college, that likewise is your problem; I learned back then to ignore the Marxist drivel they laced every lecture with. As for me, I worked hard for what I have, and I do not owe the losers in this society one damn cent! I'll fight your detestable democrat party, and its poisonous communist ideology, as hard as I can, as long as I can, with no apologies. Same with your unions, same with your social agenda. I will fight the interests of any constituency it favors on the grounds that any democrat is my mortal enemy! I'd support ANYTHING, that I believed would lead to the permanent suppression of the left in this country, and all it stands for.

 

[georgephillip]

Liberals have been whipping up class envy and class hate for so many years now, that I'm frankly surprised everyone doesn't hate anyone who makes more, or has more, than themselves. That's a hell of a way to get votes, appealing to hate and envy, and you may rest assured, no good will come of it. You libs have bought into the whole Marxist class struggle, class warfare thing; all that has ever produced anywhere is discord and eventually, bloodshed. Don't worry, GP; eventually you'll likely get your war, and a messy miserable thing it will be; at best, you'll reap the fruits of murder, and at worst, you'll get slaughtered. I'd predict the latter, myself; there are a lot more people with actual combat experience on the right, than on the left. In the end, it won't matter anyway; all you'll get, is scorched earth. If you people ever thought beyond the moment (you never do) you'd realize the best you'll get by trying to punish achievement, is a miserable society, in which all are equally miserable. The way to "get your share" is simple, have the intelligence and the industriousness to earn it, rather than expecting government to steal it for you. The part that amuses me, is that most of the cowards and losers on the left, lack the courage, the intelligence, or the skills to even do their own stealing, so you lot want the might of the government to do it for you-what a singular admission of incompetence and impotence!

"The very rich lost relatively less in the (2008 financial) crisis than the remainder of the population, widening the divide between the economic classes.

"Thus the top 1% who had a share of 34.6% of the nation's wealth in 2007 increased their share to 37.1% by 2009."

Did the richest 1% "earn" their 2.5% increase in national wealth or did our government steal it for them?

Late-2000s financial crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia