61% of Liberals Favor Socialism

[Bfgrn]

39% of Libs either don't have the guts to admit they favor Socialism or are just lairs.

100% of right wing pea brains don't have the cognitive ability to understand that antisocial behavior is not human or Christian...it is a shared personality marker found in terrorists

 

[rdean]

39% of Libs either don't have the guts to admit they favor Socialism or are just lairs.

Oh man, I LOVE to "make up" statistics. Republcians do it best, but, still, it's fun to make up a few of my own.

42% of Republicans have children who have dropped out of school.

51% of Republican girls who follow "abstinence only" become pregnant. 48% develop STDs.

63% of Republicans favor "Die Quickly".

88% of Republicans drink 6 or more beers every Saturday night.

92% of Republicans want to "kill the gays".

89% of Republicans couldn't name one good thing that comes from education.

A Whopping 96% of Republicans couldn't name a single achievement based on "science".

84% of Republcians believe that Sarah Palin talks to God and he answers her.

100% of Republicans couldn't pick out Iraq or Afghanistan from a world globe.

53% couldn't pick out the United States.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again I refer you to the writings of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Shelby Steele, et al who have done the hard work of actually studying that phenomenon. And, if you are honest, you will gain a different perspective very quickly. While most of America's poor would be deemed rich in most places, they poor remain with us, and many are far more dependent, less employable, and living in far worse circumstances than the poor of previous generations. Socialism continues to fail to accomplish its rose colored glasses promises everywhere it is tried.

No, simply nonsense. If you want to see poverty with a socialist safety net, look at us. If you want to see poverty without a socialist safety net, go to India, or Africa.

Get back to me on which you prefer.

I'll get back to you when you actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote.

Show me the list of countries that have alleviated poverty by refusing to help the poor.

 

[rdean]

No, simply nonsense. If you want to see poverty with a socialist safety net, look at us. If you want to see poverty without a socialist safety net, go to India, or Africa.

Get back to me on which you prefer.

I'll get back to you when you actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote.

Show me the list of countries that have alleviated poverty by refusing to help the poor.

Wise Republican Proverb: Man who feed poor reason poor "breed".

 

[NYcarbineer]

Now this is a good debate though. I have to say, Political Chic is fun to debate with. She really holds up her end without getting to confrontational.

Her and Pilgrim are similar like that.

Was that sarcasm?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'll get back to you when you actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote.

Show me the list of countries that have alleviated poverty by refusing to help the poor.

Wise Republican Proverb: Man who feed poor reason poor "breed".

Yep. They don't want the poor to reproduce, but they want to imprison them for having abortions, and they don't want them to be taught birth control.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wowie Zowie!!

Some large portion of Libs seem very very hypersensitive to being labeled Socialists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sorry My Dear, but socialism is already a part of the fabric of our society. When you see serious political candidates, whose platforms include destruction of, or abolishment of: Social Security, Medicare, public education, public utilities, food and drug safety, licensing of medical practitioners, highway and transportation planning, etc etc, you can have your libertarian anarchism or ???, till then we are, as most successful nations are, a mixed economy.

The only reason socialism is a bad word is that most associate it with communism. We could argue whether communism ever truly existed but note that communism is a closed system as would be your libertarian anarchism or free market capitalism or whatever the day dreamers of today think leads to economic nirvana.

Economics in the modern world is mixed and will remain so, it really is more about regulating them, then in labeling them that helps maintain peace and prosperity for all. We have Enron et al, the great depression, and the recent near financial collapse to prove regulation is essential to any working system.

I am a liberal, a progressive, a democratic socialist, an economic democrat, a radical conservative, a social democrat, an economic humanist, wrote Martin Gardner, me too.

I LOVE THIS QUOTE: “The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” –Margaret Thatcher.

"I am a liberal, a progressive, a democratic socialist, an economic democrat, a radical conservative, a social democrat, an economic humanist, wrote Martin Gardner, me too."

My condolences.
Best hopes for a speedy recovery.

 

[Foxfyre]

Wowie Zowie!!

Some large portion of Libs seem very very hypersensitive to being labeled Socialists.

That's because they don't believe they are. Nor do they see themselves as anything other than rational, sensible human beings far superior to the rest of us who they believe to be so very wrong and which they characterize in such distorted ways.

The observation didn't originate with me, but it has been noted that it is such people who most threaten the America that true patriots have come to know and love. The danger is not so much in the Prince of Fools they elect to office, but in the throng of fools who would elect such people to office.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Socialism is how capitalism is controlled. Had uncontrolled capitalism worked, there would have never been any need for socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This comes as no surprise, what does, is that 20% of the conservatives do also. What the hell is going on here?

(If you would like to see the breakdown along conservative, moderates and liberals use the link)
PRINCETON, NJ -- More than one-third of Americans (36%) have a positive image of "socialism," while 58% have a negative image. Views differ by party and ideology, with a majority of Democrats and liberals saying they have a positive view of socialism, compared to a minority of Republicans and conservatives.

Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans

"...20% of the conservatives do also..."
I lay the blame at the foot of the so-called education system, which bears only the faintest comparison to same.

On a related note, today is the anniversary, and I include it in memoriam:
February 13, 1635 1st Public School in America established in Boston: The Boston Public Latin School.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Most people don't understand the meaning of the word, thus they have a strange opinion of it.

Possibly the definition, but not the ramifications.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This comes as no surprise, what does, is that 20% of the conservatives do also. What the hell is going on here?

(If you would like to see the breakdown along conservative, moderates and liberals use the link)
PRINCETON, NJ -- More than one-third of Americans (36%) have a positive image of "socialism," while 58% have a negative image. Views differ by party and ideology, with a majority of Democrats and liberals saying they have a positive view of socialism, compared to a minority of Republicans and conservatives.

Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans

Sorry Lumpy, Politcalchic beat you to the punch on this one ....

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/105312-61-of-liberals-favor-socialism.html

You've been SCOOPED!

.......sorry PoliticalChic

No problem...

Like socialists, we can 'share' each others' work!

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You reduce labour, you reduce Republican jobs. The Republican "War on Science" and the lack of higher education insures that Republcians will NOT be able to compete in a technological society.

Interesting factoid: the word 'robots' comes from the Czech language. It is derived from 'forced labour'. As robots become the new slave race, Mankind is liberated from the need to toil.

Worse, their "leaders" are businessmen who are moving their jobs overseas where they don't have to pay benefits and can look out for their own interests, "profits".

Exploitation of the poorest members of the proletariat... didn't Marx comment on that?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I'll get back to you when you actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote.

Show me the list of countries that have alleviated poverty by refusing to help the poor.

Wise Republican Proverb: Man who feed poor reason poor "breed".

Today's vocabulary look-up: The Lower Tenth

 

[PoliticalChic]

What drivel.

Your poll does nothing more than measure the effectiveness of rightwing propaganda. The media are full of paens to capitalism and demonization of socialism. The average American know little more than that.

1. The poll was conducted by Gallup, a recognized, respected organization in this area.
It is not my poll.
Read more carefully.

2. It seems that you reading of the media is highly flawed. Are you claiming that the print media, the broadcast media and every form outside of talk radio is not left wing?
Absurd.

3.Cable TV, if judged by the number of cable outlets, is also left wing. It is only the prescience of the viewing public that annoints Fox News as the most trusted and most viewed.

4. Your reference to the 'average American' as being obtuse is but another left wing attempt to appoint oneself as the interpreter of correct knowledge.

Oh, how your post echoes the words of earlier Progressives:

Progressives know how stupid the masses are, and that is why Progressive journalists editorialize instead of report the news… to tell you what you should think.

a. “President Woodrow Wilson, a leading progressive, spoke often of his "vision," introducing a term that has now become central to our understanding of presidential politics. Wilson believed, as Kesler puts it, "that to become a leader you have to have a vision of the future and communicate that vision to the unanointed, mass public. You have to make them believe in your prophetic ability."
The Roots Of Liberalism - Forbes.com

b. Modern journalism is based on Progressives’ ideas: use the media to ‘teach’ people. Alter journalism from reporting facts to editorializing in the news, as the elites always know better. Walter Lippmann, Progressive (American newspaper commentator and author who in a 60-year career made himself one of the most widely respected political columnists in the world.)Public Opinion, “When properly deployed in the public interest, the manufacture of consent is useful and necessary for a cohesive society, because, in many cases, “the common interests” of the public are not obvious, and only become clear upon careful analysis of the collected data — a critical intellectual exercise in which most people either are uninterested or incapable of doing. Therefore, most people must have the world summarized for them, by the well-informed.”
Public Opinion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once again do tell us when progressives nominated Wilson as their spokesperson of STFU.

See if you can work on your civility.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now this is a good debate though. I have to say, Political Chic is fun to debate with. She really holds up her end without getting to confrontational.

Her and Pilgrim are similar like that.

I always appreciate hands across the aisle.

Thanks for the tip of the hat- and I'll add a courtsey.

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[NYcarbineer]

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I LOVE THIS QUOTE: “The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” –Margaret Thatcher.

Too bad she was full of shit.

 

[Meister]

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I LOVE THIS QUOTE: “The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” –Margaret Thatcher.

Too bad she was full of shit.

Link?

 

[Foxfyre]

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I LOVE THIS QUOTE: “The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” –Margaret Thatcher.

Too bad she was full of shit.

Link?