5 things women couldn't do in the 60s

[Sallow]

Abortions up.
Divorces up.
Illegitimacy up.
Drug use up.
Incarcerations up.

You Liberals wanna' take the credit for those things too?

Not really sure what you are getting at here.

Most of those things you mention here were happening, except with bad results. The number one killer of women during the 50s and 60s were back alley abortions.

Divorces are up because women can get out of abusive relationships.

Drug use may "seem" to be up, but that's because cops are much less corrupt. They aren't dealing or on the take. Back in the 50s and 60s, cops were little better than thugs.

Which is why incarcerations are up too. They are actually arresting people now as opposed to taking bribes.

 

[rightwinger]

sure, blacks made gains from the 60's on when the civil rights act passed. let me remind you which party was instrumental in passing that BTW. but over the last few decades black poverty rates have started to rise again. the average black salary in the 1990's was 63% of a whites. today it is 55%. again. your smoke an mirrors hasn't helped them at all. all of you bill clinton and barak obama years of the party of the people has actually seen a decline in in how the people are doing.

Simple question

Why should blacks vote for a Republican?

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

How have they sold them out?

Do republicans think that removing all aid will cause minorities to vote Republican? Why should any minority vote Republican? If Democrats have done such a poor job, how will you make their lives better?

 

[Sallow]

sure, blacks made gains from the 60's on when the civil rights act passed. let me remind you which party was instrumental in passing that BTW. but over the last few decades black poverty rates have started to rise again. the average black salary in the 1990's was 63% of a whites. today it is 55%. again. your smoke an mirrors hasn't helped them at all. all of you bill clinton and barak obama years of the party of the people has actually seen a decline in in how the people are doing.

Simple question

Why should blacks vote for a Republican?

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

You guys keep braying on and on about this crapola.

What alternative do Republicans offer any one with a job?

Nothing. Nadda..none.

Most people on SNAP, HAVE JOBS. Why do they go on SNAP? To make ends meet.

I actually read a conservative economist against raising minimum wage because, he wrote, the government should supplement low incomes for business so they can hire more workers, cheaply.

That's a guy that was honest about it.

Most of you guys think that people should live in poverty with no help or way out.

And that's complete bullshit.

You break Unions and cut programs intended to help those in need.

THEN? You ask why there is poverty and violence.

 

[Spoonman]

abortions up.
Divorces up.
Illegitimacy up.
Drug use up.
Incarcerations up.

You liberals wanna' take the credit for those things too?

not really sure what you are getting at here.

Most of those things you mention here were happening, except with bad results. The number one killer of women during the 50s and 60s were back alley abortions. got a fact to back that up?

divorces are up because women can get out of abusive relationships. interesting how in states that do not penalize the man in the divorce, the number of men are increasing in asking for divorce. Are they in ausive relationsships too?

drug use may "seem" to be up, but that's because cops are much less corrupt. They aren't dealing or on the take. Back in the 50s and 60s, cops were little better than thugs. shoulsn't that lead to less drug use?

which is why incarcerations are up too. They are actually arresting people now as opposed to taking bribes. or they are up because dealing drugs has become much more widespread because usage is way up

:d

 

[Sallow]

Simple question

Why should blacks vote for a Republican?

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

How have they sold them out?

Do republicans think that removing all aid will cause minorities to vote Republican? Why should any minority vote Republican? If Democrats have done such a poor job, how will you make their lives better?

It's not only "minorities" on public assistance. There are a great many people with European lineage on that too.

Most of the Southern States are extremely poor.

 

[Spoonman]

Simple question

Why should blacks vote for a Republican?

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

You guys keep braying on and on about this crapola.

What alternative do Republicans offer any one with a job?

Nothing. Nadda..none.

Most people on SNAP, HAVE JOBS. Why do they go on SNAP? To make ends meet.

I actually read a conservative economist against raising minimum wage because, he wrote, the government should supplement low incomes for business so they can hire more workers, cheaply.

That's a guy that was honest about it.

Most of you guys think that people should live in poverty with no help or way out.

And that's complete bullshit.

You break Unions and cut programs intended to help those in need.

THEN? You ask why there is poverty and violence.

so what you are really saying is liberal policies have lead to a general decline in the quality of life overall. people can no longer make a living wage. we didn't have these issues prior to the span of liberalism and progressive policies.

 

[Nosmo King]

Wimmen were holding public office BEFORE the Great Society. Wimmen, while not deployed to the War we're Transport Pilots (WASP's) and they Ferried Bombers and Fighters around.

It's not a New Thing. Democrats didn't "Free the Oppressed Female American Slaves". Do yerselves a favor top watching MSNBC.

And Credit Cards? Tell us, how many people male OR female could even QUALIFY for a credit card in the 60's? Banking Laws were different back then.

And look at the voting splits for the 1964 Civil Rights Act:

By party

The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party

Do you believe that every one of those Democrats was Liberal and every one of those Republicans was Conservative?

Stop hiding behind party identity whenever history shows Conservatives to be the resistance to expansion of civil rights. It's the ideology, stupid!

 

[Sallow]

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

You guys keep braying on and on about this crapola.

What alternative do Republicans offer any one with a job?

Nothing. Nadda..none.

Most people on SNAP, HAVE JOBS. Why do they go on SNAP? To make ends meet.

I actually read a conservative economist against raising minimum wage because, he wrote, the government should supplement low incomes for business so they can hire more workers, cheaply.

That's a guy that was honest about it.

Most of you guys think that people should live in poverty with no help or way out.

And that's complete bullshit.

You break Unions and cut programs intended to help those in need.

THEN? You ask why there is poverty and violence.

so what you are really saying is liberal policies have lead to a general decline in the quality of life overall. people can no longer make a living wage. we didn't have these issues prior to the span of liberalism and progressive policies.

I didn't post that at all.

And if you check your history, liberal policies are the SOLE driver of social mobility in this country.

Conservative policies lead to billionaires and boom/bust economies.

There was almost no "middle" class before FDR.

And LBJ's civil rights act was the catalyst for uplifting of non white Americans in this country. And women.

Which is why both the groups continue to leave the Republican party in droves.

 

[chikenwing]

Wimmen were holding public office BEFORE the Great Society. Wimmen, while not deployed to the War we're Transport Pilots (WASP's) and they Ferried Bombers and Fighters around.

It's not a New Thing. Democrats didn't "Free the Oppressed Female American Slaves". Do yerselves a favor top watching MSNBC.

And Credit Cards? Tell us, how many people male OR female could even QUALIFY for a credit card in the 60's? Banking Laws were different back then.

"Wimmen"?

Why was there an effort to pass the Equal Rights Amendment, and why was the GOP and conservative set lockstep against it?

Well tel us don't hold back,and while your at it why did dems block for years the same legislation??

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Abortions up.
Divorces up.
Illegitimacy up.
Drug use up.
Incarcerations up.

You Liberals wanna' take the credit for those things too?

Do want to take credit for denying blacks their civil rights?

How about taking credit for discriminating against gays?

Or taking credit for McCarthy?

How about taking credit for auto fatalities too?

Your conservative 1950's were not exactly idyllic back then.

actually it was the republicans who initially gave blacks rights and set them free. it was democrats who opposed it. republicans used a lame duck congress to push the 15th amendment. Republicans like john bingham and lyman trumbal were the drivers behing the 15th amendment and the civil rights act of 1866. Democrats actually voted against them. It was woodrow wilson who ordered the segregation of federal offices, not republicans. California democrats had in their state constitution a clause giving municipalities the right to determine where races could live. For a period of time only whites could vote in democratic primaries.

If you really take a look throughout history it is democrats who have passed laws restricting the rights of blacks, not republicans. Democrats are the ones who have taken actual restrictive actions against them. requiring a voter id is not a restrictive action, an infringement on rights or limitation. if it is, then laws requiring a gun license or background check for firearms should be abolished.

Nope.

It was liberals who fought for equal rights. At that time, they were Republicans.

The conservatives fought against equality then and they continue to fight it now.

 

[Rikurzhen]

I know, I know.....ones size fits all

As long as you are white, christian and wealthy

it does fit all, until democrats go and pass segregation laws. but its good to see democrats trying to appear to be undoing some of the damage they have done over the years. so tell me, exactly when will blacks be getting out of the ghettos, off welfare, off drugs, stop killing each other, graduate highschool never mind higher education. you guys are doing a bang up job with all your policies and reforms there sport.

Millions of blacks are not on welfare, don't do drugs, graduated high school and WON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN

Republicans get less than 10% of the black vote. attitudes like you just posted are a reason why

And Democrats don't win the majority of the White Vote, they lost white women, they lost white youth and they lost white men, and it's attitudes like you just posted that are the reason why. White don't want to associate with a party full of race-mongers and so they join the Republicans due to their race-neutrality.

 

[rightwinger]

it does fit all, until democrats go and pass segregation laws. but its good to see democrats trying to appear to be undoing some of the damage they have done over the years. so tell me, exactly when will blacks be getting out of the ghettos, off welfare, off drugs, stop killing each other, graduate highschool never mind higher education. you guys are doing a bang up job with all your policies and reforms there sport.

Millions of blacks are not on welfare, don't do drugs, graduated high school and WON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN

Republicans get less than 10% of the black vote. attitudes like you just posted are a reason why

And Democrats don't win the majority of the White Vote, they lost white women, they lost white youth and they lost white men, and it's attitudes like you just posted that are the reason why. White don't want to associate with a party full of race-mongers and so they join the Republicans due to their race-neutrality.

I have to agree

You don't have to worry about race mongers in a party that is 90% white

 

[Rikurzhen]

Millions of blacks are not on welfare, don't do drugs, graduated high school and WON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN

Republicans get less than 10% of the black vote. attitudes like you just posted are a reason why

And Democrats don't win the majority of the White Vote, they lost white women, they lost white youth and they lost white men, and it's attitudes like you just posted that are the reason why. White don't want to associate with a party full of race-mongers and so they join the Republicans due to their race-neutrality.

I have to agree

You don't have to worry about race mongers in a party that is 90% white

You think that that's a slam against Republicans? You haven't said anything insulting about Republicans. What you've done is implicitly insulted non-whites for not finding race-neutral policies attractive, for choosing Democrats because they actively insert race into policy and non-whites benefits from blatant racism as advanced by Democrats.

Whites who flock to a party which disavows the use of race in public policy is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[rightwinger]

And Democrats don't win the majority of the White Vote, they lost white women, they lost white youth and they lost white men, and it's attitudes like you just posted that are the reason why. White don't want to associate with a party full of race-mongers and so they join the Republicans due to their race-neutrality.

I have to agree

You don't have to worry about race mongers in a party that is 90% white

You think that that's a slam against Republicans? You haven't said anything insulting about Republicans. What you've done is implicitly insulted non-whites for not finding race-neutral policies attractive, for choosing Democrats because they actively insert race into policy and non-whites benefits from blatant racism as advanced by Democrats.

Whites who flock to a party which disavows the use of race in public policy is nothing to be ashamed of.

I am fully aware that Republicans are comprised of angry, white, Christian males trying to protect their last bastions of power

 

[Rikurzhen]

I have to agree

You don't have to worry about race mongers in a party that is 90% white

You think that that's a slam against Republicans? You haven't said anything insulting about Republicans. What you've done is implicitly insulted non-whites for not finding race-neutral policies attractive, for choosing Democrats because they actively insert race into policy and non-whites benefits from blatant racism as advanced by Democrats.

Whites who flock to a party which disavows the use of race in public policy is nothing to be ashamed of.

I am fully aware that Republicans are comprised of angry, white, Christian males trying to protect their last bastions of power

You think that there's something untoward about being angry with the racism at the heart of Democratic policies? Being angry when you see racism should be something to celebrate and valorize.

 

[rightwinger]

You think that that's a slam against Republicans? You haven't said anything insulting about Republicans. What you've done is implicitly insulted non-whites for not finding race-neutral policies attractive, for choosing Democrats because they actively insert race into policy and non-whites benefits from blatant racism as advanced by Democrats.

Whites who flock to a party which disavows the use of race in public policy is nothing to be ashamed of.

I am fully aware that Republicans are comprised of angry, white, Christian males trying to protect their last bastions of power

You think that there's something untoward about being angry with the racism at the heart of Democratic policies? Being angry when you see racism should be something to celebrate and valorize.

Now you have entered the land of Silly

 

[Spoonman]

Simple question

Why should blacks vote for a Republican?

democrats have sold them out. they have succesfully led the majority of a race to the old compnay store concept, with government as the company. then again, maybey they enjoy the projects and the high quality food they can get on food stamps

How have they sold them out?

Do republicans think that removing all aid will cause minorities to vote Republican? Why should any minority vote Republican? If Democrats have done such a poor job, how will you make their lives better?

and there you have the typical mindset of the left. do it for the votes. it's not really about improving their situation, its about how do we keep their votes.

 

[Spoonman]

You guys keep braying on and on about this crapola.

What alternative do Republicans offer any one with a job?

Nothing. Nadda..none.

Most people on SNAP, HAVE JOBS. Why do they go on SNAP? To make ends meet.

I actually read a conservative economist against raising minimum wage because, he wrote, the government should supplement low incomes for business so they can hire more workers, cheaply.

That's a guy that was honest about it.

Most of you guys think that people should live in poverty with no help or way out.

And that's complete bullshit.

You break Unions and cut programs intended to help those in need.

THEN? You ask why there is poverty and violence.

so what you are really saying is liberal policies have lead to a general decline in the quality of life overall. people can no longer make a living wage. we didn't have these issues prior to the span of liberalism and progressive policies.

I didn't post that at all.

And if you check your history, liberal policies are the SOLE driver of social mobility in this country.

Conservative policies lead to billionaires and boom/bust economies.

There was almost no "middle" class before FDR.

And LBJ's civil rights act was the catalyst for uplifting of non white Americans in this country. And women.

Which is why both the groups continue to leave the Republican party in droves.

lmao. keep on drinking the koolaid. fact is, left to the democrats, blacks would still be slaves. blacks would have never seen the passage of the civil rights act in the 60[s. blacks wouldn't be addicted to welfare and living in poverty.

Obama got elected and OWS was sent packing. old party of the people had no use for them. it was on to the special interests and 1%.

 

[Spoonman]

Do want to take credit for denying blacks their civil rights?

How about taking credit for discriminating against gays?

Or taking credit for McCarthy?

How about taking credit for auto fatalities too?

Your conservative 1950's were not exactly idyllic back then.

actually it was the republicans who initially gave blacks rights and set them free. it was democrats who opposed it. republicans used a lame duck congress to push the 15th amendment. Republicans like john bingham and lyman trumbal were the drivers behing the 15th amendment and the civil rights act of 1866. Democrats actually voted against them. It was woodrow wilson who ordered the segregation of federal offices, not republicans. California democrats had in their state constitution a clause giving municipalities the right to determine where races could live. For a period of time only whites could vote in democratic primaries.

If you really take a look throughout history it is democrats who have passed laws restricting the rights of blacks, not republicans. Democrats are the ones who have taken actual restrictive actions against them. requiring a voter id is not a restrictive action, an infringement on rights or limitation. if it is, then laws requiring a gun license or background check for firearms should be abolished.

Nope.

It was liberals who fought for equal rights. At that time, they were Republicans.

The conservatives fought against equality then and they continue to fight it now.

yea, conservatives decided, we're tired of being democrats, we'll switch to being republicans, and same with the liberals. democrats had a set of balls before the 1960's, then the bleeding heart, lunatic fringe infested the party and tried to drive the country into a bunch of dependent, socialist conformists. weaklings. mindless drones. face it, republicans are the party that has taken the actions that have given blacks their rights and freedoms. you keep on trying to play catch up to a century and a half of our progressive actions. but take the shackles of welfare and dependence on government off the people. Even roosevelt had the good sense not to make the handouts free. he provided jobs for pay. you wanted the pay you went to where the work was. of course democrats of today can't do that. they are beholden to the special interest construction companies they hand out no bid contracts to.

 

[percysunshine]

5 things women couldn't do in the 60s

There was a sixth thing. They couldn't be astronauts and go to the moon.

Which was probably a good thing....they would have run out of oxygen before she finished shopping.

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