44 Magnum

[Shawnee_b]

Never shot a 454. But I did get to shoot a 500 S&W magnum one day, when someone brought one to the range.

It was unpleasant.

I shot one too and fully agree with you, nasty round. I suppose it would be much tamer with 500 special or just loaded down a bit. For range work, who cares except sight in again. I'd shot 44 special thru 44mags. They shot high, significantly high. I looked into it. 44 special is so much slower it has more time in the barrel and is affected by recoil more than a fast 44mag.

 

[miketx]

I shot 480 ruger. Pretty bad.

 

[Likkmee]

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

 

[Likkmee]

Wanna kicker ?

 

[JGalt]

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

13.5 gr. of 2400 behind a Kieth-style cast bullet should run about 950 fps. That was my average chronographed velocity when using cast 44 mag bullets with Alliant 2400. Any faster than that, and the bore leaded up pretty bad in the 7" barrel. It took me a piece of Chore Boy copper scrub pad on a brush to scrub the lead flakes out of the bore.

I usually use HP-38 or Winchester 231 in the lower-velocity cast loads, about 6.5 gr.of 231 for 882 fps, which was most accurate. Plus I can shoot them all day without the pain. But 2400 really works well at full-magnum loads with jacketed bullets. I like those Hornady 240 gr. XTP JHP with 19.5 gr of 2400 to a measured average of 1277 fps for the best accuracy.

 

[miketx]

I used to reload my 44 mag. It was a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5 inch barrel I think, I don't remember, and I had a Model 29 6 inch.

When the cases would get worn out I used to drill out the flash holes in the primer pocket to about double the size they were and seat a primer into the case. Then I would heat the other end of the case with a lighter for a few moments and them push the case into a rectangle of gulf wax. Viola! Wax bullets! You could rip open an empty beer can from across the room! The reason you drill out the primer flash hole is because if you don't the primer will back out of the pocket when fired and lock the cylinder down. Not forever but it makes it hard to get the empties out.

 

[JGalt]

Wanna kicker ?
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[miketx]

Try it JGalt. Makes a little pop and the beer can dies!

 

[JGalt]

I used to reload my 44 mag. It was a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5 inch barrel I think, I don't remember, and I had a Model 29 6 inch.

When the cases would get worn out I used to drill out the flash holes in the primer pocket to about double the size they were and seat a primer into the case. Then I would heat the other end of the case with a lighter for a few moments and them push the case into a rectangle of gulf wax. Viola! Wax bullets! You could rip open an empty beer can from across the room! The reason you drill out the primer flash hole is because if you don't the primer will back out of the pocket when fired and lock the cylinder down. Not forever but it makes it hard to get the empties out.

That's pretty cool, I'll have to try that.

I have a box of .38 Special plastic bullets that only take primers. They can go clean through both sides of a cardboard box when I shoot them out of a 2" barreled Colt Cobra.

 

[Shawnee_b]

I used to reload my 44 mag. It was a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5 inch barrel I think, I don't remember, and I had a Model 29 6 inch.

When the cases would get worn out I used to drill out the flash holes in the primer pocket to about double the size they were and seat a primer into the case. Then I would heat the other end of the case with a lighter for a few moments and them push the case into a rectangle of gulf wax. Viola! Wax bullets! You could rip open an empty beer can from across the room! The reason you drill out the primer flash hole is because if you don't the primer will back out of the pocket when fired and lock the cylinder down. Not forever but it makes it hard to get the empties out.

Been there done that. So much fun!

 

[Shawnee_b]

I used to reload my 44 mag. It was a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5 inch barrel I think, I don't remember, and I had a Model 29 6 inch.

When the cases would get worn out I used to drill out the flash holes in the primer pocket to about double the size they were and seat a primer into the case. Then I would heat the other end of the case with a lighter for a few moments and them push the case into a rectangle of gulf wax. Viola! Wax bullets! You could rip open an empty beer can from across the room! The reason you drill out the primer flash hole is because if you don't the primer will back out of the pocket when fired and lock the cylinder down. Not forever but it makes it hard to get the empties out.

That's pretty cool, I'll have to try that.

I have a box of .38 Special plastic bullets that only take primers. They can go clean through both sides of a cardboard box when I shoot them out of a 2" barreled Colt Cobra.

I have those too, try the wax loads though, cheaper, so easy. But like Mike says drill the flash hole out. Much cowboy ballon shoots etc are wax loads

 

[Shawnee_b]

WTF hapened to my post. Was to Jgalt. Try the wax!

 

[JGalt]

WTF hapened to my post. Was to Jgalt. Try the wax!

Stealth post. I found it.

"I have those too, try the wax loads though, cheaper, so easy. But like Mike says drill the flash hole out. Much cowboy ballon shoots etc are wax loads"

 

[Shawnee_b]

Pretty simple to do J. But clean the wax well before regular rounds, build up is bad.

 

[miketx]

Pretty simple to do J. But clean the wax well before regular rounds, build up is bad.

Or don't clean it and have a dual purpose 44.

 

[Likkmee]

2400 like 110 is

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

13.5 gr. of 2400 behind a Kieth-style cast bullet should run about 950 fps. That was my average chronographed velocity when using cast 44 mag bullets with Alliant 2400. Any faster than that, and the bore leaded up pretty bad in the 7" barrel. It took me a piece of Chore Boy copper scrub pad on a brush to scrub the lead flakes out of the bore.

I usually use HP-38 or Winchester 231 in the lower-velocity cast loads, about 6.5 gr.of 231 for 882 fps, which was most accurate. Plus I can shoot them all day without the pain. But 2400 really works well at full-magnum loads with jacketed bullets. I like those Hornady 240 gr. XTP JHP with 19.5 gr of 2400 to a measured average of 1277 fps for the best accuracy.

2400 and 110 are better case full. Make sure you have some 44 spl casings for light loads. Don't "download' a magnum case with them

 

[miketx]

2400 like 110 is

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

13.5 gr. of 2400 behind a Kieth-style cast bullet should run about 950 fps. That was my average chronographed velocity when using cast 44 mag bullets with Alliant 2400. Any faster than that, and the bore leaded up pretty bad in the 7" barrel. It took me a piece of Chore Boy copper scrub pad on a brush to scrub the lead flakes out of the bore.

I usually use HP-38 or Winchester 231 in the lower-velocity cast loads, about 6.5 gr.of 231 for 882 fps, which was most accurate. Plus I can shoot them all day without the pain. But 2400 really works well at full-magnum loads with jacketed bullets. I like those Hornady 240 gr. XTP JHP with 19.5 gr of 2400 to a measured average of 1277 fps for the best accuracy.

2400 and 110 are better case full. Make sure you have some 44 spl casings for light loads. Don't "download' a magnum case with them

I loaded 5 grains of bullseye in my 1911 and stuffed the case with bath tissue to keep the powder on the primer. Cool! Wouldn't work the action. I had a single shot 1911 pistol. I could have made fortune!!

 

[JGalt]

2400 like 110 is

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

13.5 gr. of 2400 behind a Kieth-style cast bullet should run about 950 fps. That was my average chronographed velocity when using cast 44 mag bullets with Alliant 2400. Any faster than that, and the bore leaded up pretty bad in the 7" barrel. It took me a piece of Chore Boy copper scrub pad on a brush to scrub the lead flakes out of the bore.

I usually use HP-38 or Winchester 231 in the lower-velocity cast loads, about 6.5 gr.of 231 for 882 fps, which was most accurate. Plus I can shoot them all day without the pain. But 2400 really works well at full-magnum loads with jacketed bullets. I like those Hornady 240 gr. XTP JHP with 19.5 gr of 2400 to a measured average of 1277 fps for the best accuracy.

2400 and 110 are better case full. Make sure you have some 44 spl casings for light loads. Don't "download' a magnum case with them

I found that out. 2400 is best for magnum loads, instead of plinkers. I've used it for .30 carbine too, but the H110 is better for that.

 

[sparky]

I once saw what was left of a man who 'ate' a .44.......body on the floor, brains all over the wall..... rather an effective way to leave ....but what an 'effin' mess.....~S~

 

[miketx]

2400 like 110 is

I shot big bore silhouette mostly with Super Blackhawks and later( early eighties) with a Redhawk. For practice I loaded a hot Kieth spec 44 spl load....13.5/2400 ?? and for competition I ran a 240 gr Horny-day with a load of H110. Cant recall the grainage....too many years.
All these idiots think a 44 is a hand cannon. It's a one handed guy with practice. The recoil isn't bad at all.My old 4" security six with a smokin 357 load kicked harder. A TC with 44 mag is a cupcake a kid can play with at the range

13.5 gr. of 2400 behind a Kieth-style cast bullet should run about 950 fps. That was my average chronographed velocity when using cast 44 mag bullets with Alliant 2400. Any faster than that, and the bore leaded up pretty bad in the 7" barrel. It took me a piece of Chore Boy copper scrub pad on a brush to scrub the lead flakes out of the bore.

I usually use HP-38 or Winchester 231 in the lower-velocity cast loads, about 6.5 gr.of 231 for 882 fps, which was most accurate. Plus I can shoot them all day without the pain. But 2400 really works well at full-magnum loads with jacketed bullets. I like those Hornady 240 gr. XTP JHP with 19.5 gr of 2400 to a measured average of 1277 fps for the best accuracy.

2400 and 110 are better case full. Make sure you have some 44 spl casings for light loads. Don't "download' a magnum case with them

I found that out. 2400 is best for magnum loads, instead of plinkers. I've used it for .30 carbine too, but the H110 is better for that.

In mine I used 21 grains of 2400 and a magnum primer. I can't recall the bullet weight but it was either 180 gr. jhp or 240 gr jhp.