40% of HS Grads Don't Have A Job, But Immigration Continues

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    If everyone is poor, everyone is equal.
     
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    There are several reasons why 40% of HS grads in that age range don't have a job.

    Jobs moving overseas to places such as China or even down to Mexico.
    Businesses going out of business due to the recession.
    People are working longer, therefore leaving less jobs available to younger people.
    Many jobs now require a college education, which many HS grads do not have.
    Also, many Americans do not want to take jobs (such as working at BK) that they do consider "beneath" them.

    There are many reasons why that the unemployment rate for my age group is so high. Stopping Immigration whether it be legal or illegal isn't going to stop those problems. This is a complex issue and such simple ideological beliefs do nothing to fixing it.
     
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    The DC clowns never get it. When we say that we want the debt ceiling to be kept where it is, they say "the public wants to default"!!

    We don't want to default, we want spending cut as needed to stay under the debt ceiling. Just do it.

    Same with immigration. When jobs are tight we need to send immigrants home to protect US workers. The DC clowns just don't get it. They just keep whoring for Wall-Street and K-Street.
     
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    Umm HS grads should take at least another 2 yrs of school if they want to have a chance at making a living in this world.
     
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    That’s interesting. Here’s what I have observed:

    I’m a (former) home-builder. I live about 1,000 miles from the Mexico US border.

    In 1992 I saw my very first Mexican crew working in our area. They were working on an underground cable burying crew, laying phone cable.

    In that year, here in our area, and in the nations largest economic sector - which is construction - virtually all jobs went to young men who did not, for whatever reason, want to go to college. They may have simply not been college material. They may have been high-school dropouts.

    They could, if they were work oriented, find a low paying starting job with a local contractor or tradesman, develop a skill, learn a trade, and if they were a good worker, and not satisfied with their economic situation, move on to another contractor, or jump in as a contractor on their own, and build their own business.

    Those “starting jobs” were: drywall hangers, drywall finishers, brick and block masons, stucco finishers, siding installers, carpenter/framers, roofers/shinglers, ceiling texturers, and concrete wall work.

    Back in 1992, the aforementioned date, virtually 100 percent of thse jobs I listed above went to the HS, and HS dropout candidates. They were the best candidates because the work is physically intensive, and an older man will not, like in sports, be able to perform as well.

    In 2005, 13 years after I saw my first Mexican crew, and when I built my last home, I could not get a drywall crew which could converse to me in English, and at least 80-percent of all of the jobs I listed above were, by that year, being done by Mexicans.

    Some of light construction work is still dominated by native crews, because of the language/communications component, like interior painting, concrete flatwork, specialty drywall, specialty siding, and because of the same language considerations, virtually all landscape mowing, snow plowing, site clean-up, final clean-up is still being done by natives. Oh, yeah...we take care of our own kids and cook our own meals too.

    It is a myth that construction work is beneath our young men.
     
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    I'm not saying young people believe construction work is beneath them. (Heck, I'm one of those "young men".) However, many Americans in various age groups and backgrounds do believe that minimum wage work and manual labor jobs are beneath them. I'm not saying that's true for a majority of Americans or even 10%. However, it does contribute to the growing unemployment rate.
     
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    well the mexicans aren´t socialised by "world of warcraft". they know how hunger feels.

    I allow myself to speak so because we have the same problems here. the school level was downed more and more because the kids are dumb as hell today. I used to work as a private teacher and i made good money with that but anyway, i resigned by this dumbness i saw there. The enterprises are driving mad because the offspring from the schools is this nerdy and lazy here. I like to give you one example:I trained a girl who was in an education as a sweep. It took me three months to explain her the concept of density. Then I gave up. Mass per volume. Three months. No way. And she had an highschool exam.

    Well, I did this job nearly 17 Years. And I brought many kids through the highschool exams or the university-entrance diploma, so I can´t say that my way of teaching must be that bad. But in the end, i did have cases like these more often.

    But one thing I noticed: It have been mostly the kids from the rich, who were not interested in learning. I made very much money by training them because the parents didn´t took care of the costs. But the children of the poorer people, which decided to spare for a little help, needed mostly only 2-5 lessons and they were back on the road.
     
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    Modbert, what I described is exactly what minimum wage works is about. Those who are without skills, and in need of a starter job.

    I thought that you might be aware of the problem; even though you are going to college, all your pals very likely are not, nor will they.
     
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    I don't think you're quite understanding where I'm getting at.
     

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